On 18/10/2004, at 23:25, Greg Crawford wrote:

From the point of view of science, I would have problems not accepting an evolutionary development over billions of years. However, perhaps Gulley raises an important theological point. So I would be interested in the points of view of list members in response. The view of God as creator which we have is important because redemption “in Christ” is understood as a new creation, another creation ex nihilo, in the New Testament.

Interesting thread Greg!

One thing that strikes me from above: where do you find the idea that redemption is a creation 'ex nihilo'? ISTM that to the contrary 'redemption' always implies a renewing / completing /fulfilling of something which has not (yet) reached its true potential, and this would seem to me to fit perfectly with the evolutionary paradigm. Indeed my own personal hermeneutical key to God's methodology is Rom 8:28 - the description of how God works all things (including many things we see as unfortunate / evil / malign) for good. This is the faith we have in looking at a currently at too imperfect world, and with the same 'spectacles' I see the incredible plan of God at work in a process of evolution which might also be seen from another perspective to be 'cruel' or 'wasteful'.

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