-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Jari,
Jari Arkko wrote: > Joe, > >> If the purpose of the WG is to document the protocols currently in >> experimental use in a group in the IETF, no BOF is needed and they seem >> ready to proceed. >> >> If the purpose of the WG is experiments, then this work clearly belongs >> back on the IRTF, which is not the goal AFAICT (I bring this up only to >> reinforce David's view that experiments are out of scope). >> > > I like to think about this the other way around. Where are we now, where > do we want be in two years, and how do we get there? If we create a new > group, the group should have plan to do the work that is needed to move > the state of the art forward. If the plan requires experiments, so be > it. We can of course talk about whether this effort should be in IETF or > IRTF, but in any case the charter of a new group should be based on what > steps are needed, not on what steps are allowed. Agreed. This WG is a step in the direction, a step focused on documenting the LISP protocols. It is not the only step, or maybe not even the most critical step (to some), but that doesn't mean this step is not useful. > I think it is clear that there are several hard questions in this space, > and we simply do not know whether, e.g., some of the mapping ideas > actually work well in real life. My belief is that finding out requires > not just implementation, but also well planned trials, experiments, > simulation, or measurements. Otherwise its too easy to focus on > relatively minor protocol details and miss the big picture. Absolutely. THAT step - setting up the experiments, trials, etc., seems outside the scope of this WG, however. It's hard to talk about those trials and experiments absent a documented protocol, however, which is why this seems like a very useful step to everyone. Joe -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkl3WDgACgkQE5f5cImnZrtOTACfWrYV27nhAJysDvpdNy5vlYfU nfoAoO8dtG0eH3XlKQppAaR4CsxMgpN3 =yuCV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Int-area mailing list [email protected] https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/int-area
