On 18/02/2022 12:31, Mark Randall wrote:
I would claim that the unary operators behave slightly different, if it were a case of cooerce to zero, the behaviour of null++ and null-- would be expected to be the same as operating on 0, but it's not.

null++ is allowed, but null-- returns null, and its value afterwards is null.

https://3v4l.org/Bnb2D


It is "--" that is the odd one out here, not "++". Every other arithmetic operator in the language treats null as equivalent to 0.

As far as I can tell, the fact that "$a--" behaves differently from "$a -= 1" is an implementation bug that's been around so long it's become documented behaviour. I tried to propose changing it, but the reaction degenerated into personal abuse, so I abandoned it.


If anything, it's the fact that $a++ is NOT a special case that means it will be affected by this proposal.

It is intended to be affected by this proposal.


I didn't say it wasn't intentional, I said it wasn't special; the exact same behaviour applies to about a dozen operators which have to read the current value before writing.

Concatenation, for instance, treats null as an empty string, so this currently works (with a Warning) even if $message is undefined:

$message .= "Another thing happened\n";


Regards,

--
Rowan Tommins
[IMSoP]

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