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On 30 October 2004 02:03, Andi Gutmans wrote: > Nah that patch won't do because it'll effect [] also. > It's more complicated than that. I've tried separating them in the > past and it was annoying (and didn't have time to finish it off). Well, according to the docs, the [] syntax is deprecated -- *if* the []and {} syntaxes are fully separated, and *if* functionality is added to the {} syntax only, wouldn't this be a good time to emphasize that deprecation and set an actual cutoff for it (such as PHP 6.0?)? Incidentally, I'd be about +100 (if my opinion counted for that much!) for $string{-1}, purely for readability -- any performance gain would be a bonus. > At 05:51 PM 10/29/2004 -0700, Sara Golemon wrote: > > > > > - People might want to take this even further and request {1,3}, > > > {-3,2} and the like. (This was expressed in the past when > > > talking about this stuff) > > > > > They might... and the response to that is that it's a more > > siginificant modification/glut of the exisiting code than merely > > allowing negative offsets. The fact is allowing negative string > > offsets via the {} operator involves changing one line, and it's no > > major waste of CPU cycles. Full substr()esque behavior would be > > more bloat-intensive of course and I'd be inclined to side against > > that. I'd also be +several for folding substr() behaviour into the {} string syntax -- I've often thought that if I ever have time to muck about with the source, I'd like to make that my first little project. (Incidentally, re another post, I'd expect $string{$m, $l} to be the substring clone, and $string{$m:$n} to be "from offset $m to offset $n" syntax -- and, personally, I'd like to see both. But then, I'm a programmer with over 20 years experience, so probably not your typical PHP user at all, and I can quite see the argument about not cluttering up PHP with potentially obscure syntaxes. So I'll shut up now! ;) Cheers! Mike --------------------------------------------------------------------- Mike Ford, Electronic Information Services Adviser, Learning Support Services, Learning & Information Services, JG125, James Graham Building, Leeds Metropolitan University, Headingley Campus, LEEDS, LS6 3QS, United Kingdom Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: +44 113 283 2600 extn 4730 Fax: +44 113 283 3211 -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php