As I answered on Anthony's post, there is not much need for waking up, or moving the talks to a forum, or discussing the problem to death here.
The problem is clear, and everyone involved on this mailing list is aware of it to some degree. The only way this can be solved is if the offenders self-censor and think twice before posting emails. This thread is yet another example of abuse IMO. Every reply here is wasting a ton of people's time, and we end up discussing discussion instead of making progress. For having been involved in the Rust community recently, I find that their Code of Conduct [1] is great, and if everyone tries to follow it discussions remain on point and civilized. [1] https://github.com/mozilla/rust/wiki/Note-development-policy#conduct I wish everyone would just take a deep breath after reading something that makes them angry, and take another long one before hitting send with a hurtful reply. If someone acts like a dick send them a link to a code of conduct, either publicly or privately, and *ignore* everything else they said. It's been internet wisdom for ages to *not feed the trolls*. So if you want to do something useful: draft an RFC with a clear code of conduct, put it to a vote, promote it. And if you don't agree see above, take a deep breath and do not waste time answering this email to tell me an idiot. Cheers -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php