>but I keep hearing from the KAME folks again and again
>"we already have IPv6 implementations which do not understand
>HAO, we dont want HAO mandated" (which makes no sense to me).

        MUST for HAO is self-contradictory at best.  if HAO is a MUST, we don't
        need bidir-tunnel (since it won't be used).  if we have bidir-tunnel,
        HAO is okay with SHOULD.

        i don't want a pie-throwing match, but it seems that you want it...
        i keep hearing from you "we can ignore currently-deployed IPv6
        codebase" which is total nonsense (or total ignorance of the current
        situation) to me.  IPv6 is not a toy in your lab any more.  we have
        people depend on it, we have serious IPv6 commercial network operation.

        i suggest to leave the SHOULD/MUST decision to jari, the main editor.

itojun
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