>but I keep hearing from the KAME folks again and again >"we already have IPv6 implementations which do not understand >HAO, we dont want HAO mandated" (which makes no sense to me).
MUST for HAO is self-contradictory at best. if HAO is a MUST, we don't need bidir-tunnel (since it won't be used). if we have bidir-tunnel, HAO is okay with SHOULD. i don't want a pie-throwing match, but it seems that you want it... i keep hearing from you "we can ignore currently-deployed IPv6 codebase" which is total nonsense (or total ignorance of the current situation) to me. IPv6 is not a toy in your lab any more. we have people depend on it, we have serious IPv6 commercial network operation. i suggest to leave the SHOULD/MUST decision to jari, the main editor. itojun -------------------------------------------------------------------- IETF IPng Working Group Mailing List IPng Home Page: http://playground.sun.com/ipng FTP archive: ftp://playground.sun.com/pub/ipng Direct all administrative requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------------------------------------------------------------