Gabriel:

Some of us believe that allowing WESP to carry encrypted packets is within the 
charter
(there's some recent messages today to this effect). Unfortunately, there's 
been wording along the lines
that the working group realized it was going off-charter, but no such 
conclusion has been
arrived at (and some of us don't share it).

I see the discussion, but so far, I am not convinced by it. I'm still listening ...

Additionally, allowing WESP to carry encrypted packets does not (at least in my 
mind)
make it a general alternative for ESP. WESP has certain applicabilities, and 
when
cooperating with intermediaries is not an issue (e.g., outside of 
organizational deployments)
one could use encrypted ESP packets instead.

It is a replacement (as opposed to a wrapper) if the portions of the packet that are covered by the ICV are different.

Russ
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