Put differently, it better be Wednesday night, since I can't be in Taipei any 
earlier ;-).

-geoff

From: Stephen Hanna
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 3:09 PM
To: Yoav Nir; Geoffrey Huang
Cc: ipsec@ietf.org
Subject: RE: [IPsec] New -00 draft: Creating Large Scale Mesh VPNs Problem

I agree. Wednesday night would be best.

Who else is interested in getting together to discuss this? Clearly, there are 
plenty of interesting issues to discuss.

Steve

From: ipsec-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:ipsec-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Yoav 
Nir
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 10:00 AM
To: Geoffrey Huang; Stephen Hanna
Cc: ipsec@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [IPsec] New -00 draft: Creating Large Scale Mesh VPNs Problem

Well, there is a free room between 1300-1500 on Wednesday, but then we're 
opposite WebSec, and I can't attend.

Our best bet is to do it after the Plenary. The plenary ends at 19:30, and 
people might want to grab something to eat, so it would probably be best to do 
it at 20:00.

Hope you don't have a flight for Wednesday night...

On 10/26/11 10:19 PM, "Geoffrey Huang" 
<ghu...@juniper.net<mailto:ghu...@juniper.net>> wrote:

I have to agree with the recent comments about the inapplicability of RFC 4322. 
 I don't think that a DNNSEC infrastructure can be assumed, particularly not in 
the deployments I have seen.

I agree with Steve Hanna's comments about the need for ad-hoc peer-to-peer 
VPNs, bypassing a centralized hub.  I also agree with Paul Hoffman's comments 
about using an already-existing "trusted introducer."

Finally, I will be in Taiwan, but specifically (only) to discuss this topic.  
I'm hoping that the date of Wednesday, November 16 is still good for the bar 
BOF that some of us had previously discussed.

-geoff
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