Folks,
I am really having a hard time trying to get this IM stuff to work for our remote 
users. Here is my config and maybe someone can see
where it is I'm going wrong...

Server is installed on 10.0.0.30 (Internal Machine behind a firewall)

All internal users can log-in and send messages without any problems.

The Firewall/NAT Gateway is 12.32.70.210 (Public) and 10.0.0.1 (Internal)


Something I notice on the client when trying to connect to the IM server that it tries 
to connect to it's internal address. Of
course that won't work. So I set up a filter that allowed inbound TCP 5177 on a public 
address. The firewall is configured to
forward those requests to the internal IM server.

Now, I had to create a user xxx@external IP address on the internal IM server 
otherwise I was not able to authenticate.

Okay so now the external user can connect and authenticate and I can see them 
internally on my client but they are showing as
gray(offline).

The external user can send me a IM without any problems but I can't IM them back or 
send a new IM to the user.

If I try to reply to a IM sent from the outside I get this error...
<< Failed to forward message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Failed to read protocol version.
An existing connection was forcibly closed by the remote host.. >>


If I try to send a new IM to the external user I get this error...
<< User [EMAIL PROTECTED] is not a valid user. >>

What am I doing wrong?

Greg Foulks, MCP
NewFound Technologies, Inc.
http://www.nfti.com
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Mourfield
Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 4:25 PM
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Subject: RE: [IpswitchIM_Forum] Recap the port issue and NAT Flag


IIM uses 2 ports.

Clients connect to the Server on tcp 5177 (think of this as the control channel). 
Through this socket the client sends requests to
the server and the server acknowledges those requests. Also, Servers talk with other 
Servers on port 5177.

The Server sends asynchronous data to the Client on tcp 5178 (think of this as the 
data channel). Data such as status information
and conversations travel over this socket. This is the default configuration of the 
Client (listening on 5178). Also, by default,
the Client does not maintain a socket that is always open to the server. When the 
Client is sending data, it A) opens a connection
to the server (who is listening on 5177) B) Sends its request C) waits for an 
acknowledgment from the server and D) closes the
socket.
With some network configurations Clients need to be configured to use persistent 
connections (i.e. maintaining an open socket to the
server all the time). This is when the NAT flag should be set on the Client. In this 
configuration, the Server does not talk to the
Client via port 5178. Instead it uses the persistent socket that was established when 
the Client logged on to the Server.

Also, there is a Help Topic in the Server Help that further explains the NAT 
configuration issues.


Hope this helps,
Pete Mourfield
Ipswitch, Inc.

-----Original Message-----
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Foulks
Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 1:52 PM
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Subject: [IpswitchIM_Forum] Recap the port issue and NAT Flag


Could someone recap the port issue and NAT flag?

What ports must be opened on the firewall to allow for incoming and outgoing 
connections?

The NAT flag- Do you enable it on a workstation that is outside the local lan?

Thanks,

Greg Foulks, MCP
NewFound Technologies, Inc.
http://www.nfti.com
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Voice: 614.318.5036
Fax: 614.318.5005


-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Terry L
Fritts
Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 1:43 PM
To: Rick Leske
Subject: Re: [IpswitchIM_Forum] Clients on private network Server on
Internet network


Hello Rick,

Wednesday, February 5, 2003 you wrote:
RL> Is there any truth to the dual ports?  and if so do they just both use tcp
RL> only?

Look at your log files and you'll know soon enough if you have the
issue.

Here is an example from mine:
-------------------------
2/5/2003 9:07:25 AM ImServer Failed to push local presence to ...
       Error=Failed to connect to 192.168.0.162 on port 5178
-------------------------

I opened up 5178 outgoing from the IM server, 5177 incoming on my
workstation, set the Nat flag and it started working.  TCP only.

You don't need the nat flag on a workstation that connects directly to
the im server without natting but I guess that's obvious.

Most of our clients have firewalls though and most nat so the nat
setting is a problem on install.

Terry Fritts
Smart Business Solutions, Inc.


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