> It's even worse than that. If you are residential user, try finding a > home router that is actually a Real Router. I've come to the > unfortunate conclusion that they no longer exist. The market > landscape has shifted dramatically. All home routers come with NAT > builtin and the functionality can simply _NOT_ be disabled.
Hmm - must be the $50 routers and the cheapest service. The box I got installed last week as part of a DSL install (which is "SOHO class" i.e. not the cheapest on the market) is not only a real router, but when you disable NAT it has a default firewall policy (outbound only connections). To get this setup by the ISP all I had to do is tell them that I need public IPv4 address space by filling in a form, and then they spent 10 seconds to put that address space range in the router. > My ISP (after having supposedly done research) says > this is the case for all home routers. To get a real router would seem > to cost a lot more (i.e, low hundreds of $$). My cost $149 with a $149 mailin rebate = zero. Cheap enough for me. But different regions and countries are likely to have different competitive pressure; my attempts at getting non-NATed service in France failed and UDP tunneling came to my rescue. Erik -------------------------------------------------------------------- IETF IPv6 working group mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Administrative Requests: https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipv6 --------------------------------------------------------------------
