Chris, One thing to consider as others have pointed out is that, RIR fees do not typically treat non-profits any better than for-profits. The RIRs themselves are technically non-profit corporations and they are charging for management and allocation of address space, not what you do with them. So fees would typically apply the same whether you are commercial ISP or not.
One exception however is in ARIN (RIPE may have this also, not sure about APNIC as I never dealt with them previously) has an experimental allocation service, which reduces the fees than that of regular allocation. These experimental allocations are not designated for research networks to be used for long term-- b/c if you are given an experimental allocation for reduced fee, it is only short term lease, and you would need to describe the outcome and purpose of your research for the duration of that lease. But if you are looking to provide long-term services like you are with your project, your best bet is to take the RIR's cost for regular allocation, then divide it by the number of members you have and have everyone pay a portion of it to get it going.. At lease this is how most governmental and private-sector funded research networks are run. They charge membership fee, and use that to pay costs like this; if there is no membership fee, and then have everyone bear the cost of RIR fees. Besides, if you don't have enough members on your network that cost-sharing model doesn't work out, then you probably won't be able to meet RIR's policies for getting a /32 space either if you have that little users. Hope this helps.. Regards, James Jun IP Infrastructure & Technology Services TowardEX Technologies, Inc. WWW: http://www.towardex.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Office: +1 (617) 459-4051 Ext. 179 Mobile: +1 (978) 394-2867 > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Christopher Martin > Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 7:23 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: ipv6@ietf.org > Subject: RE: IPv6 Research/Not-for-profit Addressing > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jeroen Massar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Monday, 30 January 2006 10:56 PM > > To: Christopher Martin > > Cc: ipv6@ietf.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: IPv6 Research/Not-for-profit Addressing > > > > The certainly do have options for IPv6 only. See: > > http://www.apnic.net/docs/corpdocs/member-fee-schedule.html > > Which means small: $2500 US which translates to $3750 AU. > > Those membership levels assume much larger allocations than we require. It > would be remiss of us to use our limited resources to acquire assets which > we could only hope to use a tiny portion of. We need a modest, portable > range. > > > What would be unfair is if a "non-profit" organization could get a > > 'cheaper' prefix than a commercial organization. Especially because you > > are in direct competition with them. That your business model doesn't > > give you enough funding doesn't mean that would become an option. > > Then again politics on this planet seem to like those kind of > constructs. > > Actually, there is no case of direct competition as the network: > > * Won't provide any IPv4 access to the internet > * Won't provide any 6-to-4 translation/bridging to the internet > * Won't offer any guaranteed quality of service > > For those who can afford a form of broadband it will be a supplemental > service, while those who can't can still act as a peer on at least some > form > of network. > > As a side note, the ISP industry worldwide is marching all over the > original > model of the internet, that being a peer-to-peer network, by forcing DHCP > addressing on permanent services like cable and ADSL. > > > "Pricing" is globally mostly the same btw. > > > > > Is there address space made available for research purposes, or is > there > > > space set aside for not-for-profit use? > > > > Your best bet is to contact AARNet (http://www.aarnet.edu.au), they are > > in Australia for research and education and already provide IPv6 > > connectivity. They might be able to help you out. > > We have approached AARNet, however they require a peering agreement to be > in > place, but the requirements are a very steep hill to climb, needing > multi-megabit links in each state, which presupposes the existence of a > network. > > > There is also at least one project which has received their own IPv6 > > allocation and is also non-profit. Maybe OCCAID (http://www.occaid.org) > > can help you out. > > Thanks, I will approach them. > > > Thirdly there is an "Experimental IPv6 Allocation" policy: > > See: http://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ipv6policy.html > > Again, thanks for the info. > > > BTW: 6bone is dead per 6/6/6. > > We are aware, and the ISPs in question are looking at connecting to > Telstra, > Optus and NTT's v6 trial networks. > > Thanks for you replies. > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > IETF IPv6 working group mailing list > ipv6@ietf.org > Administrative Requests: https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipv6 > -------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------- IETF IPv6 working group mailing list ipv6@ietf.org Administrative Requests: https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipv6 --------------------------------------------------------------------
