Margaret,

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Margaret Wasserman [mailto:m...@sandstorm.net]
> Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 1:10 PM
> To: Templin, Fred L
> Cc: ipv6@ietf.org; l...@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [lisp] Flow label redux [Re: IPv6 UDP checksum issue]
> 
> 
> Hi Fred,
> 
> On Aug 6, 2009, at 1:42 PM, Templin, Fred L wrote:
> >
> > How are non-TCP/UDP flows handled by these legacy systems
> > today? For example, 6to4 uses ip-proto-41.
> 
> My understanding is that these flows will not be handled well...
> Since ECMP load balancers will have limited information available (the
> two IP address and the next header value), they will group all of the
> traffic between two 6to4 tunnel endpoints into a single flow.  If it
> becomes common for pairs of tunnel endpoints to transmit large amounts
> of data across ISP networks, this could present a significant
> operational issue for the Internet.
> 
> This problem (and the LISP problem) could potentially be alleviated by
> hardware that performs load balancing based on the IP address, the
> next header and the IPv6 flow label. But, according to folks who ought
> to know, most of the IPv6 routers they have deployed can't handle load
> balancing based on anything but a UDP or TCP 5-tuple, even in IPv6 (no
> IPv6 flow label, no UDP-Lite, no SCTP, etc.).  This is rather
> distressing, but I have no reason to doubt their statements.

I guess add IPSec to the list of flows that would not be
handled well in the future? Are you saying that we need
to accept that the Internet is ossified, and all new
protocols will need to continue to do things the old way?

Fred
fred.l.temp...@boeing.com

> 
> Margaret
> 

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