>>>>> "Pascal" == Pascal Thubert <(pthubert)" <pthub...@cisco.com>> writes: Pascal> Hi Brian:
Pascal> The Hop by Hop is certainly the clean solution. Pascal> The trouble is that it requires additional bytes in every Pascal> packet for the header and for the IP-in-IP encapsulation Pascal> that goes with it; yet RPL operates in a domain where Pascal> devices can be strictly constrained in energy and frames can Pascal> be very small, so every bit counts quite dramatically. Thus Pascal> we're looking for more affordable alternates. We have Pascal> started a 6MAN document on the IP in IP avoidance for Pascal> instance. Pascal> Here, the point is not to get the flow label definition Pascal> impacted by RPL but to see if the flow label can be used by Pascal> RPL within the definition that 6MAN will refine. If we have Pascal> enough mutable bits, then we can allow an alternate mode in Pascal> RPL whereby those they are used as opposed to the HbH. So one solution is for RPL to just do what it wants to inside the LLN, and use IP-in-IP for packets that arrive at the LLN border with a non-zero FL. (ditto for packets that have to leave) This makes the extra bytes the exception rather than the rule. It also can be turned off in closed networks where the FL has been coordinated across the AS. This would be facilitated by the rule that we can set a zero FL to a non-zero value. -- ] He who is tired of Weird Al is tired of life! | firewalls [ ] Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works, Ottawa, ON |net architect[ ] m...@sandelman.ottawa.on.ca http://www.sandelman.ottawa.on.ca/ |device driver[ Kyoto Plus: watch the video <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzx1ycLXQSE> then sign the petition. -------------------------------------------------------------------- IETF IPv6 working group mailing list ipv6@ietf.org Administrative Requests: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipv6 --------------------------------------------------------------------