On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 6:25 PM, Cameron Byrne <cb.li...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 8:03 AM, Pars Mutaf <pars.mu...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 5:31 PM, Brian E Carpenter > > <brian.e.carpen...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> Lixia, > >> > >> The original note says "I think it is possible to locate the node we > >> need." > >> > >> So, the idea is apparently not to divide the Internet - it is simply to > >> deal > >> with the fact that addresses would be ambiguous. Since we have 15 years > >> experience of the pain caused by ambiguous addresses, and a perfectly > good > >> 128 bit address space that avoids any need for ambiguous addresses, I > >> don't > >> see the point. It isn't even worth sending the code. > >> > >> Pars, > >> > >> Your original note also says "I am not here to discuss these details." > >> Sorry, > >> but in the IETF it's *exactly* the details that we must discuss; that's > >> our > >> job. We've been doing so since 1992 to my personal knowledge. > >> > > > > I propose have a network of Internets: > > > > Internet1 > > Internet2 > > Internet3 > > ... > > Interntet_n > > > > In Internet 1 and 2 we may have two nodes with the same address. > > The goal is to route the packet to the right Internet. I don't think it > is > > impossible. > > > > Quite possible. Most people call it CGN. In fact, the IETF granted a > /10 of IPv4 for this purpose. > > You mean this one? http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6264 Figure 1 looks like what I am proposing. Right? If so, we can also have a IPv7 with is, in addition to IPv6 (or directly IPv7). I have no idea what IPv7 would be and why it would be needed, but it looks like we should be flexible (to me at least). Pars CB > > > Pars > > > > > > > >> > >> Regards > >> Brian > >> > >> On 2012-04-10 15:09, Lixia Zhang wrote: > >> > the Internet is a means to communicate. > >> > and the market drives for most effective/efficient/economical > >> > communication systems (there are tradeoffs between the adjectives) > >> > wonder if you could help explain how your picture of "network of > >> > Internets" would be more effective and economical (than what we have > now) > >> > > >> > Lixia > >> > > >> > On Apr 10, 2012, at 6:24 AM, Pars Mutaf wrote: > >> > > >> >> Hi, > >> >> > >> >> In my opinion, we can add one more Internet when necessary, then > >> >> another one etc. > >> >> > >> >> We can have as many Internets as we need, all different. > >> >> > >> >> We just need a *network of Internets*. > >> >> > >> >> The first (current) Internet is an IPv4 Internet. > >> >> The second Internet can be an IPv4 Internet too. In this case we > would > >> >> have 2 IPv4 Internets. > >> >> Obviously, in this case, we would have the same addresses used by two > >> >> different nodes in > >> >> the two Internets. I think it is possible to locate the node we > need. I > >> >> am not here to discuss > >> >> these details. > >> >> > >> >> The second Internet can be an IPv6 Internet. > >> >> > >> >> The second Internet can be a IPv7 Internet. > >> >> > >> >> The second Internet can be IPv6 but we may have a third one which is > >> >> IPv7 etc. > >> >> > >> >> We just need a network of Internets, all possibly different. > >> >> > >> >> Pars > >> >> http://content-based-science.org/ > >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> >> IETF IPv6 working group mailing list > >> >> ipv6@ietf.org > >> >> Administrative Requests: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipv6 > >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >> > > >> > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > IETF IPv6 working group mailing list > >> > ipv6@ietf.org > >> > Administrative Requests: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipv6 > >> > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > IETF IPv6 working group mailing list > > ipv6@ietf.org > > Administrative Requests: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipv6 > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >
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