Ole, Roland,

Could we limit the 6man discussion to the question asked by Softwire, i.e. 
whether new IID types can be defined, using u=g=1, with a first one for 4rd, is 
compatible with the current IPv6 specification?

If the answer is positive (as it seems it can be), restarting a discussion on 
the 4rd design is unnecessary. That is only if the answer is negative that 
Softwire will have to restart working on the subject.

Regards,
RD




2012-12-19 13:37, Ole Troan <otr...@employees.org> :

> [...]
> 
>> I briefly read into the 4rd draft, but it's not entirely clear to me
>> whether other solutions don't exist. Maybe there are other means to
>> get the context knowledge that this particular IPv6 address has a
>> special structure encoded somehow.
> 
> as a clarification of what has happened in softwire. (Suresh, please correct 
> me if I'm wrong.)
> 
> the softwire working group has chosen to standardize "MAP-E 
> (http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-softwire-map-02)" as the solution for
> stateless A+P. the two competing proposals MAP-T (dIVI) and 4rd are being 
> published on experimental track.
> 
> all of these 3 solutions use interface-ids. MAP-E a single address of a 
> certain format. while MAP-T and 4rd uses the interface-id field to carry 
> destination IPv4 address, and in 4rd's case a checksum neutraliser field.
> 
> the interface-ids that 4rd uses must be unique on the link, and it doesn't 
> handle conflicts with other (native) nodes well.
> alternative approaches to reserving interface-id space for this mechanism 
> could be:
> 
> - reserve a /64 of the customers delegated prefix for the sole use of 4rd
> - the 4rd node protects all possible 4rd interface-ids using DAD
> 
> Best regards,
> Ole
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