Hello again, Fernando,

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Fernando Gont [mailto:fg...@si6networks.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2012 12:00 PM
> To: Templin, Fred L
> Cc: draft-ietf-6man-ipv6-atomic-fragme...@tools.ietf.org; 6man WG
> Subject: Re: AD Evaluation: draft-ietf-6man-ipv6-atomic-fragments
> 
> Hi, Fred,
> 
> On 12/18/2012 04:13 PM, Templin, Fred L wrote:
> > I have a question about this document. Is a middlebox permitted
> > to fragment an "atomic" fragment before forwarding the packet
> > on to the next hop? If not, why not - after all, that's why the
> > host inserted the fragment header in the first place.
> 
> My take is that an *IPv6* middle-box is not permitted to fragment the
> packet. The IPv6/IPv4 translator is, from an IPv6 point of view, a
> host/end-point/end-system (that's where the v6 world ends for that
> packet).

On further thought, I don't fully accept the notion that the
translator is a host/end-point/end-system. The IPv6 host provides
the translator with an Identification value, and that value carries
forward into the IPv4 world. So, while the IPv6 packet itself does
not carry forward, IPv6 information does.

> As to the "why not", I'd guess the reason is "only IPv6 hosts fragment
> packets"

I think there would need to be an asterisk next to that statement
saying that IPv6/IPv4 translators are exempt from this requirement.
And, if the translator can be exempt then so also should an IPv6
middlebox that connects to a link that would otherwise be obliged
to perform burdensome link adaptation.

Thanks - Fred
fred.l.temp...@boeing.com

> > If so,
> > then shouldn't the draft say something about the permissible
> > behavior of middleboxes when forwarding an "atomic" fragment
> > (e.g., "a middlebox is permitted to perform fragmentation on
> > an "atomic" fragment before forwarding to the next hop")?
> 
> Why should there be a difference between fragmenting an atomic fragment
> and e.g. re-fragmenting a non-atomic fragment?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Best regards,
> --
> Fernando Gont
> SI6 Networks
> e-mail: fg...@si6networks.com
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