Patrick Martin
Seaside OR
KGED QSL Manager

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Subject: Re: [IRCA] The VACTROL progress
Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2016 19:33:49 +0000

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Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2016 14:33:45 -0500
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Subject: Re: [IRCA] The VACTROL progress

 
Steve Byan's original version Vactrol circuit used for Beverages can be adapted 
for Ewes.
 
 
http://www.w0btu.com/Remote_Beverage_termination_control.html
 
 
The trick is that the Ewe element would need to be redone with a two-conductor 
wire such as lamp cord, twisted pair, or speaker wire.
 
 
Mark Connelly, WA1ION
South Yarmouth, MA
 
 
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Patrick:
 
 
You can't use Colin's box. Modifications would have to be made to it and to 
your transformer box. Perhaps the next version of Colin's box will have a bit 
of flexibility.
I'd scrap the EWE: it has by far the poorest antenna pattern in the 
EWE-Flag-Pennant-Delta (Kaz) group. Plus, it's ground dependence means a bit of 
change to the termination as seasons vary the soil characteristics.
Wet soil doesn't generate voltages all by itself. It might corrode things, but 
that's a different story.
 
 
Chuck
 
 
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From: IRCA <irca-boun...@hard-core-dx.com> on behalf of Patrick Martin 
<mwd...@webtv.net>
Sent: Sunday, March 6, 2016 5:49 PM
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Subject: Re: [IRCA] The VACTROL progress
 
 
Chuck and Colin,
 
 
So it looks like the best way is not to use this for the EWE the way it is 
designed? I may have to build a different antenna, one that is floating, a 
K9AY, a Flag, or a KAZ antenna? Any form of a "loop" is my best antenna to use? 
I was concerned about any form of voltage/current in the ground. Our soil is 
swampy and very wet most of the year. The grounding always enhances the TP 
reception here, so I like to use it. John Bryant and I always used to discuss 
that, as in OK it never made any difference.
My EWE's are all Ground connected. At the far end is a control (2-3K pot) that 
runs between a series of ground rods and the end of the EWE for termination. I 
peak the pot for a null and leave it.
 
 
 
 
Patrick
 
 
Patrick Martin
Seaside OR
KGED QSL Manager
 
 
> From: coffeecan...@gmail.com
> Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2016 22:00:57 -0800
> To: irca@hard-core-dx.com
> Subject: Re: [IRCA] The VACTROL progress
>
> Mark Connelly or one of the guru's likely has a better answer - I have been 
> using a very vanilla arrangement with the power coax going directly to the 
> termination -
> I do not think you could run the ground side of the connection via ground 
> rods if that is what you are suggestion - at least with the 9-10 V source 
> from my Vactrol supply.
>
> Colin Newell - CoffeeCrew.com - VA7WWV - Victoria - BC
>
> > On Mar 5, 2016, at 8:37 PM, Patrick Martin <mwd...@webtv.net> wrote:
> >
> > Colin,
> >
> > As you know I am going to be using this on a EWE, with one side of the 
> > control to a series of ground rods and the other to the end of the EWE. 
> > Does this matter? There may be some current in the ground as the soil is so 
> > wet here and I live next to a swamp. I plan a new Western EWE at 20X115X20 
> > in the backyard and I will be using the Vactrol there.
> > On another note, I have that SW EWE I have had since 1981. I cannot run a 
> > cable through the land over to the end of it because in the Winter often 
> > the wire would be under 2-3 feet of wire as it is a swampy cattle raising 
> > field. Now, I wonder if I could attach a wire to the EWE and follow the end 
> > down to the far end, getting the power to it? I could avoid running wire 
> > through the lake out there in the Winter, also the cows could not step on 
> > it. But would the extra power cable running next to the EWE affect the 
> > operation of it? Any thoughts from anyone
> > I am hoping the the new Western EWE will rival the SW EWE, as getting to 
> > the termination of the SW is not as easy as it once was with the electric 
> > fencing and all.
> > Thanks.
> >
> >
> > Patrick
> >
> > Patrick Martin
> > Seaside OR
> > KGED QSL Manager
> >
> >> Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2016 17:01:10 -0800
> >> From: coffeecan...@gmail.com
> >> To: irca@hard-core-dx.com
> >> Subject: [IRCA] The VACTROL progress
> >>
> >> I have had around 9 orders or so for VACTROL sets --
> >>
> >> Went out and spent around $500 for parts on Friday -
> >>
> >> If anyone is interested in a bit more info on what they are and what they
> >> do,
> >> head over here -
> >> http://www.dxer.ca/index.php/our-stuff/19-vactrol-for-the-dxer
> >>
> >> This article will grow a little every day.
> >>
> >> Many thanks for the advance orders on these units - will knock them off as
> >> fast as possible.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Colin Newell - Editor and creator *of *Coffeecrew.com
> >> <http://www.Coffeecrew.com> and DXer.ca <http://www.DXer.ca> -
> >> VA7WWV | Twitter @CoffeeCrew | Victoria - Canada
>>
                                          
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