> -----Original Message-----
> From: Schaufler, Casey
> Sent: Monday, October 20, 2014 3:18 PM
> To: Wang, Quanxian; Dominig Ar Foll
> Cc: ivi@lists.tizen.org
> Subject: RE: Simultaneous multi-user multi-seat architecture
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: IVI [mailto:ivi-boun...@lists.tizen.org] On Behalf Of Wang,
> > Quanxian
> > Sent: Monday, October 20, 2014 12:06 AM
> > To: Dominig Ar Foll
> > Cc: ivi@lists.tizen.org
> > Subject: RE: Simultaneous multi-user multi-seat architecture
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Dominig Ar Foll [mailto:dominig.arf...@fridu.net]
> > > Sent: Monday, October 20, 2014 2:57 PM
> > > To: Wang, Quanxian
> > > Cc: Jussi Laako; ivi@lists.tizen.org
> > > Subject: Re: Simultaneous multi-user multi-seat architecture
> > >
> > > 2014-10-20 7:59 GMT+02:00 Wang, Quanxian
> <quanxian.w...@intel.com>:
> > > > I raise my concerns and need more discussion on multiple-user,
> > > > multiple-
> > > display, multiple-seat.
> > > >
> > > > I have found multiple-display, multiple-seat are discussed and
> > > > developed
> > > under multiple-user. I don't think it is a good idea for IVI automotive.
> > > >
> > > AGL and Genivi which are the representative of the Automotive
> > > industry believe it is. I honestly beleive that that they know better than
> us.
> > > The multi user requirement for Tizen were directly extracted from
> > > Genivi requirement.
> > [Wang, Quanxian] It is not conflict with this definition.  I don't
> > think multi- display, multi-seat should be developed under multi-user.
> > It is different. N:n, 1:n are all accepted. One user,
> > multiple-display, multiple- seat. It will be more convenient in one car.
> 
> Ignoring the security implications is *always* more convenient.
> If you only have a single set of people who use the car, and they are all
> responsible to each other, of course you could use a single user.
> 
> > >
> > >
> > > > We are doing the investigation on one user with multiple displays,
> > multiple
> > > seat.
> > > >
> > > > In one car, we don't need to login with different users. We just
> > > > provide
> > the
> > > display for every user. Every user has his own display and do what
> > > they
> > want
> > > to do.
> > >
> > > Once again, car manufacturers are planning to use user login,
> > > obvioulsy not by login name and password but by using key FOB,
> > > Camera or BT phone pairing. The main requirement for login is
> > > enforcement of data privacy and personalization.
> > [Wang, Quanxian] For privacy, permission control. Multi user will be
> > fine. But in one car, do you really need that?
> > At least, I don't think multiple displays are not related with much
> > more privacy. It should focus on the convenience how to use IVI system.
> 
> You don't have kids, do you? Or friends? You're clearly not a member of a
> carpool. And you never earn extra money with Uber.
[Wang, Quanxian] If you want to use multiple users, there is definitely fine. 
But to design multiple display, and multiple seat, I don't think you really 
need bind them together with multiple user mechanism. 
It is only limit your resource to designed model. It is not flexible.
By the way, I have two kids. More friends. I respect their privacy. I am only 
doubt binding mechanism. Don't limit everything into multi-user. *** They 
should be the apps limit or share instead of multi-user.***
> 
> > > >
> > > > It seems like the discussion like this. But the difference is no
> > > > multiple
> > user.
> > > >
> > > > Currently we have implemented one demo. One user has one display,
> > they
> > > could do action on their own display without conflict. For example,
> > > listen music, play games, navigator separately by different
> > > customers. No conflict happens. (Actually they are under the same
> > > user, however who cares, user just focus their own apps).
> > > >
> > > Sorry data privacy protection is a key requirement and single user
> > > mode cannot deliver it.
> > >
> > > If you happen to be in Shanghai at TDC, this week, come to talk to
> > > me F2F if you have more question.
> > [Wang, Quanxian] Sorry. I am in BJ. :(
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > Dominig
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