--- In [email protected], Aaron Ackerson 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I live in Japan (Osaka, specifically), and I've found that the 
> ultra-polite language that is taught in textbooks is hardly ever 
used. One time I asked my Japanese girlfriend what the answer to a 
textbook question about honorific language was, and she said she had 
no idea, because no one she knows talks like that.  Also, in most 
situations it sounds perfectly natural to refer to your own mother 
as "okaasan.">

When someone addresses their own mother directly, "Okaasan" is 
used. "Haha" is used when talking to someone else about one's own 
mother. I suppose the younger generation uses "okaasan" in all 
situations.

I know that back in the days of Shôwa, politeness would have been 
integral to daily conversation. Of course, in the Heisei era there 
seems to have been a certain amount of liberalisation in how 
Japanese is spoken. This could be what irks the hard-liners at the 
top of Japanese society.

> It is not rude for a foreigner to use the same level of politeness 
that a Japanese would typically use in the same situation.  I have 
found though that I often get laughed at when I use words from the 
Osaka dialect, such as "senaakan,"  "dekihen," or "shirankatta," 
even though the people who laugh at me use those phrases themselves 
all the time.
> 
> Aaron>

Be happy when they laugh at you; at least you give them a long-
awaited-for laugh. Soon enough they just might get accustomed to you 
speaking Osaka-ben ;^)

Personally I find a dialect like Kansai to be much more colorful 
than the "hyojun-go", based upon Tokyo dialect. Hyojun-go is good 
for work and school, but for a down-to-earth conversation local 
dialects are superior. (Try speaking in Castilian Spanish to a Latin 
American guy sometime. You'd be surprised at the difference!) By any 
chance, are you familiar with the rather vulgar language for which 
Yakuza movies are known?

Your fellow Osakans would not expect a foreigner to speak Japanese 
fluently, let alone speak a dialect thereof, such as theirs, 
fluently. Currently I have my eyes on Satsuma-ben of Kagoshima 
prefecture. I hear that it's quite different from other Japanese 
dialects, often to the point of not being intelligible.

It would be sad if one day everyone used hyojun-go in daily 
conversation, instead of their local dialects.

- Arian I.






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