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From: Greg Barish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> I agree with both Jean-Michel and Mark.
>
> As of right now, the NT/Intel combination is the best, at least if
> you believe the recent (yet controversial) Mindcraft/PC Week "open
> benchmarks", in which the NT/Intel combo siginficantly outperformed
> Linux, _even with_ the Red Hat guys tuning Linux for the benchmark.
This is _very_ untrue. Indeed, some facts about the Mindcraft review have to
be made public, including:
1) the benchmarking was paid my Microsoft
2) users (and RedHat) answered Mindcraft's request for tuning information,
but instead of providing the extra information RedHat/usenetters needed for
a specific answer, they quietly hid in disguise of an anonymous user.
3) they tuned samba (which was used for windows file sharing tests) so
badly, it performed even worse than if it had not been messed with at all
4) they used extra-verbose logs, which slowed down apache quite a bit
(because then disk i/o gets to be an important factor)
More can be found at http://slashdot.org/features/99/04/23/1316228.shtml
> I believe part of the problem was traced to the Linux lack of multi-
> threaded IP stack (something which has since been addressed), but it
> goes to show you that, while Linux is certainly an important platform,
> right now it is still NT/Intel which provide the best price/performance
> guarantee.
I do agree with you when you say there are no decent VMs for Linux. We use
IBM JDK 1.1.8 for development here, and it works well, though not blazingly
fast, though its restrictive 90-day-trial license means we cannot throw
their JRE into our package and install it anywhere. But as it seems Sun will
be releasing Hotspot's source code, then maybe we'll finally see some nice
VMs not only for Linux but also for more critical deployment platforms such
as Free/OpenBSD.
> I don't work for Microsoft or any anti-Linux company, I am simply
> relaying metrics which have already been published by what most
> people believe to be an impartial organization. YMMV. I encourage
> you to read the whole benchmark report. I don't think this is the forum
> to debate - in general - Linux vs. NT, but I thought that at least the
> topic was relevant to the poster of the question below. I think any
> ongoing bashing should NOT involve this list.
>
> The summary of the tests can be found at:
>
> http://www.mindcraft.com/whitepapers/openbench1.html
> (site appears to be down this morning)
Yes, using Sun's Hotspot can bring NT performance to levels unreachable to
Linux boxes at the same hardware level, but I believe that is just a
question of time. In the manwhile, IBM JDK is the way to go, even with is
lousy license terms.
> greg
Ulisses Montenegro
NEWStorm - http://www.newstorm.com.br/
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