At 09:27 AM 10/31/00 -0800, Calvin Austin wrote:
>Minor corrections, you can legally 
>
>a) share source with other SCSL licensees for free, for example if
>you wanted to work in a porting team or use it for your research project.
>
>b) you can ship a binary if it passes the TCK test, there are
>no royalties but the test itself is not free. 

So you can't, for instance, add a new method to java.io.File and ship that
binary then, right?

Also, see:
  http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/trial/exhibits/feb99/2175/sld001.asp

"The definition of the Java Test Suite is extremely broad. If negotation
with MS is not going well, we can possibly "enhance" the Java Test Suite to
invalidate any Java implementation that doesn't support certain desired new
feature."


>regards
>calvin
>
>>At 18:11 10/30/00 -0800, noisebrain wrote:
>>>This (the license) does not negate the fact that the source is available
>>>and can be changed.
>>
>>actually it does. What can you (legally) do with that changed source?
>>Nothing. Can you give it to me in binary form? no. Can you give it to me
>>in source form? no. Can you give it to me in a diff. No. It might as well
>>be the old AT&T unix license. Yeah it's still better than say Windows,
>>but it isn't GNU/Linux, it isn't xfree86, it isn't apache, it isn't perl,
>>it isn't Open Source; but the more people who will buy into Sun's diluted
>>concept the more they and the popular press will forget the real meaning.
>>Please don't feed their delusions.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>now the forces of openness
>>     have a powerful and
>>     unexpected new ally
>>    http://ibm.com/linux/
>>
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