The missing piece in ur analysis is that the blackdown group got a commercial
license to do the port. It is a license that sun did not give/grant to me when
i did the Java port to the Digital Alpha computers running Linux. Without that
license, or pre commitment to grant a license, you are wasting your time in
porting - they could just refuse outright to grant a license to you. Tell me
if u think that you would have had a Linux/intel port from blackdown if that
license was not first granted!
/gat
noisebrain wrote:
> I still disagree. The fact that source is available and can
> be changed allowed the blackdown group to port java to linux,
> without which we wouldn't be on this list in the first place.
> The linux java port is very significant to me and many others.
> Yes, it's not the same as GNU, and not as desirable, but for
> anyone who says it's the same as microsoft and and others,
> I'm still waiting to see the VB source ported to linux.
>
> On Mon, 30 Oct 2000, Chris Abbey wrote:
>
> > At 18:11 10/30/00 -0800, noisebrain wrote:
> > >This (the license) does not negate the fact that the source is available
> > >and can be changed.
> >
> > actually it does. What can you (legally) do with that changed source?
> > Nothing. Can you give it to me in binary form? no. Can you give it to me
> > in source form? no. Can you give it to me in a diff. No. It might as well
> > be the old AT&T unix license. Yeah it's still better than say Windows,
> > but it isn't GNU/Linux, it isn't xfree86, it isn't apache, it isn't perl,
> > it isn't Open Source; but the more people who will buy into Sun's diluted
> > concept the more they and the popular press will forget the real meaning.
> > Please don't feed their delusions.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > now the forces of openness
> > have a powerful and
> > unexpected new ally
> > http://ibm.com/linux/
> >
> >
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