My one outstanding question is the following Has any OpenJDK build yet passed the TCK(JCK) ?
On Apr 5, 3:59 am, robogeek <reiki...@gmail.com> wrote: > I hope to be able to clarify some of what was said in the episode. > > FYI I'm no longer at Sun. In any case as a blogger in the SE team I > didn't have any official coaching on what could or could not be said > on my blog. However the reason for not using the phrase "Java 7" is > very simple -- until there is a platform JSR assigned for Java 7 there > is no such thing as Java 7. For all values of 'n' in Java n there > must be a matching platform JSR defining the spec for that release of > Java. There were times I used the phrase "oh-what-the-heck-lets-call- > it-java-7". > > OpenJDK is open source under GPL and IIRC you can build it today > without requiring binary plugs. Further there is effort from the > IcedTea underway to integrate IcedTea patches upstream into OpenJDK. > And there are other efforts such as the BSD porting project (including > Mac OS X) etc. > > Whether an implementation can be called 'Java' is a separate matter > from the open source nature of the OpenJDK. The name 'Java' is a > trademark and there regularly trademark issues around open source > projects. For example why does CentOS have to remove all of Red Hat's > trademarks? It's because those trademarks are owned by Red Hat. For > example remember the issue with iceweasel versus firefox? IIRC That's > partly about the Mozilla Foundation rules about the use of the Firefox > trademark. Ubuntu has gotten careful about the Ubuntu trademark, for > example. Likewise Sun as the trademark owner gets to choose how the > trademark Java is used, who can use it, etc. > > One of the steps to getting permission to use the trademarks is to > pass the TCK for the Java platform. (a.k.a. the JCK) The JCK is most > clearly not under an open source license, and the JCK is a separate > project from the OpenJDK project. The issue with the Harmony project > is about whether/how/if/when they can get a license to the TCK so they > can certify Harmony. > > One way I think the confusion came in is -- 3 yrs ago when Jonathan S > & Rich G were on stage with their "it's not a matter of if" dance, > Jonathan asked "when will we open source Java". The news coverage > afterward was "Sun will open source Java". > > I'm sorry, Sun didn't open source Java. Sun open sourced an > implementation, OpenJDK, which can be used to create Java > implementations. > > What would it mean to "open source Java"? Java is a specification, a > community of people collaboratively defining specifications and > reference implementations etc. Would it mean open sourcing the JCP? > What would it mean to open source a standards body? --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to javaposse@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to javaposse+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
