One thing to keep in mind with regard to how Java caught on originally is that when it came out, it was the only language running on the JVM (obviously). So, we can't really say that it was the language alone that made everyone take notice. Nowadays, when a new language for the JVM comes out, it is not the only technology offering good cross-platform support. So it's only about the language features, not to mention all the pressure for good legacy library interop.
Alexey 2001 Honda CBR600F4i (CCS) 1992 Kawasaki EX500 http://azinger.blogspot.com http://bsheet.sourceforge.net http://wcollage.sourceforge.net ________________________________ From: Fabrizio Giudici <fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it> To: javaposse@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 1, 2009 4:40:22 AM Subject: [The Java Posse] Re: c# Better Language Than Java? Casper Bang wrote: > Nah, Martin Odersky was still dabbling on Pizza (predecessor to Java > with generics) by the time most of the C# stuff was being thought > out. ;) I realize people consider Scala a contender to the next-gen > I wasn't serious :-) this thread seems to have a high degree of humor. > language but I honestly can't see your average corporate developer use > it, it's just too different. > Well, I agree, indeed. I think Scala is the best new language in the Java ecosystem, and it has got all the new stuff of modern languages, but I don't see it in the average corporate. To me, the successor of Java-the-language has still to be born. Which raises a serious question, BTW: we're saying that C# and Scala have got the same stuff (roughly), that C# is more modern than Java and thus it's more appreciated by some developers. Still, we perceive that Scala is too different to be widely accepted. So, why a pumped-up Java should be accepted? Of course we could think of an implementation of new stuff with a more "conservative" fashion, but would it really be possible? And would it be really an acceptable engineering trade-off? >From my point of view, the answer is negative: I don't see any acceptable trade-off happening in Java. And I see Scala as too exotic; that's why I expect a genius strike from somebody else, as the killer idea will be a new language which has got modern features, it's catchy as Java was in 1996 _and_ has got some continuity with the present. BTW, I don't know if this stuff is even possible - I hope so. -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager Tidalwave s.a.s. - "We make Java work. Everywhere." weblogs.java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici - www.tidalwave.it/blog fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it - mobile: +39 348.150.6941 --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to javaposse@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to javaposse+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
