On Sep 14, 2009, at 7:50 AM, Casper Bang wrote:
> > Oh ok. Well I donno how much is involved from this to actually having > Silverlight work, but it appears to be a good first step and they > generally move at an immense speed over there. It's also interesting > to see that the Mono bridge samples take about half the code size as > their Obj-C counterparts. > > I never considered an iPhone because of the countless handcuffs, but > this bridge actually means one could develop applications on Linux and > Windows: http://monotouch.net/Tutorials/MonoDevelop_HelloWorld > > I'll interpret your answer as if you don't have a team trying to get > JavaFX up and running on the iPhone. I can only say this: JavaFX not being on an iPhone has never been a technical issue > > /Casper > > On 14 Sep., 16:36, Joshua Marinacci <jos...@marinacci.org> wrote: >> You said the "first browser RIA plugin to be supported on the >> iPhone". >> I'm saying that what they are doing won't make it happen. >> >> Yes, it's possible to build a pure Java app that you can install on >> non-hacked iPhones. Like Mono it involves generating an ugly blob of >> Objective C code which is then compiled using the native toolkit. You >> are still essentially writing Objective C code and you must code >> against the Cocoa apis, you are just doing it with a different >> language. >> >> I'm not saying what they are doing is bad or not a good idea. The >> ability to write OpenGL games for the iPhone in your preferred >> language is awesome. I just don't want anyone to think we are minutes >> away from viewing Flash, Sliverlight, or JavaFX enhanced webpages on >> an iPhone. >> >> -j >> >> On Sep 14, 2009, at 7:28 AM, Casper Bang wrote: >> >> >> >>> Ehh... Mobile Safari? Anyway it is a declared goal of the Mono >>> guys to >>> eventually offer Silverligt on the iPhone. Do you plan on offering >>> JavaFX there? >> >>> /Casper >> >>> On 14 Sep., 14:16, Joshua Marinacci <jos...@marinacci.org> wrote: >>>> Cross compiling your language into Objective C (which is what all >>>> of >>>> these iPhone solutions do, even the Java one (yes, there is one)) >>>> is >>>> light years away from creating a browser plugin for Mobile Safari. >> >>>> On Sep 14, 2009, at 4:17 AM, Casper Bang wrote: >> >>>>> Why the grain of salt? For a while now Novell has been running a >>>>> closed beta test program for .NET development on the iPhone: >>>>> http://tirania.org/blog/archive/2009/Aug-03.html >> >>>>> Anyway, the primary reason why you don't see Java on the iPhone is >>>>> that you are simply not allowed by Apple to run a JIT. C# was >>>>> designed >>>>> to always be compiled, Java was not. Mono already took advantage >>>>> of >>>>> this in the past in order to run on a multitude of devices (Wii >>>>> etc.) >>>>> so the compiler can emit statically optimized code just like a C >>>>> compiler would do. I believe there are some attempts at bringing >>>>> Java >>>>> there, but the big difference is that Mono does not require a >>>>> jailbreak whereas Java does which also means developers can >>>>> publish C# >>>>> applications in the app store. This probably also means that the >>>>> first >>>>> browser RIA plugin to be supported by iPhone will be Silverlight. >> >>>>> /Casper >> >>>>> On 14 Sep., 12:25, JavaSnake <zeevb.pub...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> I know that such news from InfoWorld should be taken with a gain >>>>>> off >>>>>> salt... but here goes: >>>>>> InfoWorld reports that "Novell on Monday will offer a kit for >>>>>> developers to build Apple iPhone and iPod Touch business >>>>>> applications >>>>>> using Microsoft's .Net Framework instead of the Apple-designated >>>>>> C or >>>>>> Objective-C languages." >>>>>> -http://www.infoworld.com/d/developer-world/iphone-gets-net-app-develo >>>>>> ... >> >>>>>> What is the status of developing with Java for the IPhone? > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to javaposse@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to javaposse+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
