errrrrr...no

On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 7:21 PM, Scott Melton
<scott_rides_ag...@yahoo.com>wrote:

> Are you by any chance Rakesh Menon? If you are, I found your JavaFX site.
> Great examples. Thanks for publishing.
>
> http://fxexperience.com/2009/11/text-effects/
>
>
> --- On *Sat, 4/10/10, Rakesh <rakesh.mailgro...@gmail.com>* wrote:
>
>
> From: Rakesh <rakesh.mailgro...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Software Patents and Joe bashing
> To: javaposse@googlegroups.com
> Date: Saturday, April 10, 2010, 12:48 PM
>
> Hi Scott,
>
> what insult to Joe are you referring to? Stating Joe has an Apple bias is
> not an insult but pretty much a fact that can be backed up with examples.
>
> Sorry Scott but I can't help feeling you are , as we say in the UK,
> stirring.
>
> R
>
> On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Scott Melton 
> <scott_rides_ag...@yahoo.com<http://mc/compose?to=scott_rides_ag...@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
>
>>  Do you really expect me to believe that one sentence from one letter from
>> another country, taken out of context supports your assertion that patent
>> lawyers are retarded(special needs, LOL) morons and idiots? I may resemble a
>> young baboon but even I don't buy that one.
>>
>> Regarding your post about Joe deserving the beating. Your rational falls
>> well short of polite behavior. You say if he deserves it, I guess meaning it
>> is true, it's ok for someone to insult and berate him? If someone personally
>> insults someone else, then maybe your argument holds some water, even though
>> I'd argue that retaliation in kind is usually not the best way to handle
>> things. Fact is, he did not. He voiced his opinion and now you are telling
>> me that because you think he is wrong he deserves to be personally insulted
>> in public? I don't think so. Not even in my backyard.
>>
>> Even if we were sitting in my backyard drinking beer and telling dirty
>> jokes, try calling Willy Nelson a burned out old hippy. It may be true, but
>> I doubt he'd cotton to it. (no, I don't know the burned out old hippy ;)
>>
>> This isn't my backyard. It's a professional forum of your peers read by
>> (possibly) thousands of people of all walks of life, burned into virtual
>> stone for posterity to read and ponder. Women, children and people of other
>> cultures who might find ugly or off color posts offensive or at least,
>> unpleasant. Some people might be ok with them, thick skin and all, but it's
>> these others that we should consider when we choose our wording.
>>
>> Or at least, that is my opinion, from my country, Texas, my culture,
>> Texas, imposing my behavioral standards from Texas, blah blah blah...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Opinion sent from Mybacksideistan phone.
>>
>>
>> --- On *Fri, 4/9/10, Reinier Zwitserloot 
>> <reini...@gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=reini...@gmail.com>
>> >* wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: Reinier Zwitserloot 
>> <reini...@gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=reini...@gmail.com>
>> >
>> Subject: [The Java Posse] Re: Software Patents and Joe bashing
>>
>> To: "The Java Posse" 
>> <javaposse@googlegroups.com<http://mc/compose?to=javapo...@googlegroups.com>
>> >
>>  Date: Friday, April 9, 2010, 3:45 AM
>>
>>
>> Nope. People who write these laws are retarded morons who get played
>> by lobbyists.
>>
>> A british MP (something that bears some resemblance to a US senator or
>> house representative) recently wrote a letter to another MP to try to
>> convince her of the importance of a new law that, amongst many other
>> things, will bring a three-strikes-and-you're-out system to internet
>> access in the United Kingdom: If you get *accused* 3 times of breaking
>> copyright law, you get your internet disconnected. It's not quite -
>> that- dramatic, but that's not really the point. The letter included
>> the following text:
>>
>>     An IP Address (Intellectual Property Address)
>>
>> That's right. Apparently IP Address doesn't stand for Internet
>> Protocol Address anymore.
>>
>> See. Idiots.
>>
>> Regardless of whether the current patent system is good or bad, and
>> regardless of whether joe is being bashed, and regardless of whether
>> or not he deserves that, your point about the current law being made
>> by people 'infinitely more knowledgable than you' is only true if
>> you're a baby baboon with a learning difficulty. You seem to be able
>> to type, so, I doubt that.
>>
>>
>> On Apr 8, 6:12 pm, Scott Melton 
>> <scott_rides_ag...@yahoo.com<http://mc/compose?to=scott_rides_ag...@yahoo.com>>
>> wrote:
>> > In a free and open society it is easy to find fault in complicated
>> systems, just as it is easy to have a bias, pick sides and misrepresent the
>> facts. One example in this thread, I may be wrong, but I think there is good
>> reason for simplifying the patent granting process from who invented it
>> first(which can be very difficult and costly to prove) to who filed first.
>> Is the change a choice between the lesser of two weavels? Certainly.
>> Infinitely more knowledgeable people than I made the decision. I will side
>> with them until I become a patent lawyer or become so well informed that I
>> can pass judgment on this complicated system.
>> >
>> > On to the Joe bashing or un-bashing if you will. Everyone has a bias. If
>> you think you do not then you are biased toward the delusional. I enjoy the
>> spirited discussions on the Java Posse podcast and think it is crucial to
>> have them. If a bias surfaces from time to, (Apple, UNIX!, Windows) that is
>> fine with me. I am lucky to know where they sit, before they tell me where
>> they stand.
>> >
>> > The Posse members take extreme measures to inform people about where
>> they sit. They do an exemplary job of presenting the issues in a well
>> thought out, open, balanced and professional manner. Knowing their bias(or
>> assuming I do) sometimes helps me understand their position more clearly.
>> >
>> > Having listened to over half of the podcasts, I have come to the
>> conclusion that the format is an easy, open and professional one. It is easy
>> to listen to, very informative and sometimes as fun as a barrel of monkeys.
>> (That is a whole lot of fun!) For someone to personally criticize and insult
>> a member for having a bias and not conforming to their way of thinking(right
>> or wrong) is non-productive and unnecessary(unwanted?) in this format.
>> >
>> > That is my opinion. Take it or leave it. There is no reason to
>> personally criticize or insult me for it.
>> >
>> > Apologies for high jacking this thread,
>> > Scott Melton
>> >
>> > Opinion sent from my ASS phone.
>>
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