Pardon me, but you sound like having been seduced by Kurzweil's books... have you read any of his stuff? What gives you such an optimistic outlook, considering researchers to this day are still struggling with just understanding facets of the human brain (why we need sleep, what is conscienceless, how can fobies rule over rationale, why time appears to accelerate etc.)?
It's no more than 50 years ago doctors hammered ice picks into the frontal lobe of patients in the belief that they could cure psychological disorders. I'd consider simulated brains of today equally crude; but hey, give me a tool that will do my job and I will happily retire to my hammock with a cold brewski. /Casper - I program, therefore I am On May 26, 7:23 pm, jitesh dundas <jbdun...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hahaha, > > Really..That is quite an expression.. > > I am a Science student and I think science only..I welcome your > opinions Rakesh, that will bring some good pointers for us to > discuss..I don't believe I aimed at hijacking your thread.That thought > is so narrow-minded..In any case, please go ahead and say whatever > you want..You are most welcome...:) > > Btw,thanks for the nominations,I guess I will be famous now..Only > now,I would like to learn more about science from what you say. > > Again, your point about evolution and all..I stand by what I said. Anyways, > thanks for the constructive information. > > I think computers could understand such a situation someday and if > they do, they do, t at will truly be human like thinking.. > > Thanks Kevin for your interesting reply. > > Regards, > jd > > On 5/26/10, Rakesh <rakesh.mailgro...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > hey, this hijacking someone else's thread into a random direction is > > fun! Sorry, I complained before. > > > On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 5:10 PM, Rakesh <rakesh.mailgro...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> if computers gained sentience, they would be worse than the Nazis. > > >> On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 5:07 PM, Kevin Wright > >> <kev.lee.wri...@googlemail.com> wrote: > >>> I thought the rule was you couldn't claim that until someone's been > >>> compared > >>> to Hitler and/or the Nazis > > >>> On 26 May 2010 17:03, Rakesh <rakesh.mailgro...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >>>> Jitesh, > > >>>> "Intelligent Design" is a theory, created by Creationists to denounce > >>>> Evolution. > > >>>> I nominate this post to be the most pointless and ill-conceived in the > >>>> history of threads ever. > > >>>> Rakesh > > >>>> On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 4:55 PM, jitesh dundas <jbdun...@gmail.com> > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > Actually Kevin, this supports the intelligent design t > >>>> > eory..Evolution is the next step in product of intelligent behavior. > > >>>> > No wonder computers are becoming smarter with our support. > >>>> > However, evolution in computers will be the point when we can call > >>>> > computers equal to us ...long way to go..lbut intelligence & software > >>>> > development ,well that should be not far away .... > > >>>> > I request replies in this direction... > > >>>> > Regards, > >>>> > jd > > >>>> > On 5/25/10, Kevin Wright <kev.lee.wri...@googlemail.com> wrote: > >>>> >> So we can't just create these things, we have to evolve them. > > >>>> >> You know... this really screws with the "intelligent design" theory > >>>> >> :) > > >>>> >> On 25 May 2010 14:50, shainnif ismail <shain...@googlemail.com> > >>>> >> wrote: > > >>>> >>> well these machines do have 500,000 years of evolution to catch up > >>>> >>> on, > >>>> >>> the > >>>> >>> analogy i recall was these system are like single cell organisms > >>>> >>> that > >>>> >>> we > >>>> >>> need to force evolve. > > >>>> >>> Regards > >>>> >>> Shaine Ismail > > >>>> >>> On 25 May 2010 14:30, Casper Bang <casper.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >>>> >>>> I also studied hypermedia and here 10 years after I have yet to be > >>>> >>>> convinced that the theory can map to practice (i.e. bidirectional > >>>> >>>> links, annotations etc.) If anyone can bring this forward in > >>>> >>>> practice, > >>>> >>>> it has got to be Google. And yet, look at how crappy live > >>>> >>>> translation > >>>> >>>> of captions works for YouTube. That part will be particular > >>>> >>>> interesting to monitor when GoogleTV launches. > > >>>> >>>> On May 25, 3:17 pm, shainnif ismail <shain...@googlemail.com> > >>>> >>>> wrote: > >>>> >>>> > I went to a talk at Edinburgh University many years ago, about > >>>> >>>> > Neurolinguistics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neurolinguistics) > > >>>> >>>> > specifically on Semantics, and its use in computer science eg > >>>> >>>> > translating human language to code using intelligent programs, > >>>> >>>> > mapping > >>>> >>>> > concepts rather than words. > > >>>> >>>> > It remember being very impressed and that was about 1999. > > >>>> >>>> > shaine > > >>>> >>>> > On 25 May 2010 13:56, Casper Bang <casper.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >>>> >>>> > > It's an interesting subject for sure, dating back to Plato Vs. > >>>> >>>> > > Aristotle. I used to believe futurists like Ray Kurzweil etc. > >>>> >>>> > > but > >>>> >>>> > > now > >>>> >>>> > > I am not so sure. While we will no doubt continue to simulate > >>>> >>>> > > larger > >>>> >>>> > > and more complex brains, we have yet to properly define > >>>> >>>> > > intelligence > >>>> >>>> > > let alone self-awareness (humans primary driver). > > >>>> >>>> > > Nature itself does not seem particular intelligent, it relies > >>>> >>>> > > on > >>>> >>>> > > crude > >>>> >>>> > > trial-n-error (survival-of-the-fittest) and tracer-bullets > >>>> >>>> > > (mutations) > >>>> >>>> > > rather than up-front design. Indeed, modern agile processes > >>>> >>>> > > looks > >>>> >>>> > > an > >>>> >>>> > > awful lot like a step back to nature. > > >>>> >>>> > > The fact that you can hire 100 teams to solve a problem* and > >>>> >>>> > > they > >>>> >>>> > > will > >>>> >>>> > > all get to very different solutions, suggests to me that it > >>>> >>>> > > makes > >>>> >>>> > > little sense to equate computer intelligence and human > >>>> >>>> > > intelligence. > >>>> >>>> > > When all 100 teams start to arrive at the (very near) same > >>>> >>>> > > solution, > >>>> >>>> > > then we may be more ready to define "intelligence". > > >>>> >>>> > > /Casper > > >>>> >>>> > > *Not a pure algorithmic problem a la TSP. > > >>>> >>>> > > -- > >>>> >>>> > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the > >>>> >>>> > > Google > >>>> >>>> Groups > >>>> >>>> > > "The Java Posse" group. > >>>> >>>> > > To post to this group, send email to > >>>> >>>> > > javapo...@googlegroups.com. > >>>> >>>> > > To 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