The point I am trying to make is that the typical argument "just use
Scala" doesn't hold water, Scala can NOT fill the void left by Java -
something that has been the subject of many a debate on these forums
(too many in fact).

On Sep 28, 1:51 pm, Kevin Wright <kev.lee.wri...@gmail.com> wrote:
> That's a double-negative...
>
> If you *are* an inferior developer and unwilling to learn, then Scala is not
> for you.  I think this was the entire point... There are a lot of 9-5 "code
> monkeys" out there who are genuinely unwilling to learn, Scala will not
> appeal to these people.
>
> But if you are willing to learn, then you won't automatically like Scala;
> you may prefer Clojure, or Haskell, Coq or Agda, or some extreme Java
> hackery - like writing lombok or lambdaj.  However, you *will* find that
> 100% of current Scala developers are in the "willing to learn" group, and
> those coming from a lot of Java experience are in the "trying to push the
> state of the art" group as well.
>
> On 28 September 2010 12:29, Casper Bang <casper.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > So by inference, people who are not convinced by Scala, are inferior
> > developers unwilling to learn?
>
> > On Sep 28, 11:55 am, B Smith-Mannschott <bsmith.o...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 10:51, Vince O'Sullivan <vjosulli...@gmail.com
> > >wrote:
>
> > > > On Sep 28, 9:23 am, Kevin Wright <kev.lee.wri...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > An important trait of being a good programmer is the willingness to
> > learn
> > > > > and push the boundaries of what can be done well. That's also why
> > Scala
> > > > is
> > > > > quite suitable for new programmers, including children and students.
>
> > > > There's no logical connection between those two sentences.
>
> > > The logical connection is "willingness to learn". Presumably students are
> > > willing to learn. "Good" programmers are also willing to learn. (Or would
> > > you argue that they are not? Or perhaps that all programmers have the
> > same
> > > level of skill and interest?)
>
> > > // ben
>
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