Take a look at Force.com (or god forbid, MS Access or Lotus Notes).

All the frameworks I've seen in Java are still reinventing the same
wheel and same low level functionality over and over and over again.
It's depressing.

I think you need to move to a much higher level of abstraction (And
less flexibility and higher cost and level of vendor lock in) to get
the kind of productivity boosts for these kind of department level
CRUD/reporting/workflow apps.

On Nov 2, 11:32 pm, Rakesh <rakesh.mailgro...@gmail.com> wrote:
> so lets say my client has a requirement to build a website that
> consists of the usual CRUD and a few forms for registration and
> collecting some other details.
>
> Is this accomplished easily without resorting to traditional
> frameworks? Not seeing it (please enlighten me) especially the
> drudgery of capturing form attributes and having them turn into java
> objects and then validating them.
>
> Rakesh
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> On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 10:08 AM, Casper Bang <casper.b...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> This has occasionally led us to keeping more than may be desired in a more
> >> general resource, for example say /customer/45 with a lot of data, rather
> >> than /customer/45, /customer/45/billingaddresses, /address/1, /address/2,
> >> /address/378 as separate resources, incurring 1+n calls to the server, 1+n
> >> transactions/auth checks etc.
>
> > But don't you OTOH find it rather easy to add caching so that the
> > chattyness is isolated at the HTTP level, rather than reaching the
> > backend? Spreading short-lived self-populating caches at strategic
> > places seems to make all the difference with REST architectures.
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