You might take a look at Grails and Spring ROO, both of which have GWT plugins for them.
Cheers, Mark card.ly: <http://card.ly/phidias51> On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 11:12 AM, Alexey <inline_f...@yahoo.com> wrote: > Agreed, but let's keep in mind that things happened that allowed us to > let go of many of the frameworks many of us were initially drawn to. > Firstly, there was the move to stronger standardization of things like > DOM, CSS, and HTML and better implementations in the browsers, > particularly the welcome demise of IE6. On the other hand, much more > work was put into client-side frameworks/libraries like jQuery and > YUI. And of course we're now also seeing the rise of frameworks like > GWT that give us client-side language of our choice (Java) with all > the usual perks (strong typing, back-end interoperability, seamless > RPC). > > The end result of all this is that there are more than ever reasons to > reduce complexity on the back end and leverage client-side standards > and libraries with significant momentum behind them. I think the > debates died down largely because of these changes in our web-dev > ecosystem than due to any side winning over the philosophical > framework arguments that once seemed so far-reaching. > > On Oct 28, 12:39 pm, clay <claytonw...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Five years ago, there were intense debates of web frameworks. There > > were Java framework wars among Struts vs JSF vs Tapestry vs Wicket vs > > Spring vs etc along with the the prominent non-Java frameworks such as > > PHP, ASP.NET, Rails, etc. > > > > Recently, I've been working on rich web applications that use: > > - 100% static HTML/JavaScript/CSS > > - Client-side JavaScript GUI framework such as ExtJS or YUI or > > something similar. > > - Server-side web services such as JAX-RS/JSON or something similar. > > > > No traditional server-side HTML web framework. > > > > This really seems like the perfect dev stack for the web. The tools > > are extremely easy to learn and use and debug. I can edit static HTML/ > > JS content and get feedback instantly or edit server-side code and > > restart web services in seconds. There is no code generation, which > > from past experience always leads to headaches eventually. Completely > > separate client/server source code is much easier to read, edit, and > > works much better with syntax highlighting than hybrid server-side > > template files that mixed template markup, server code, and client > > code. And, most importantly, the end web apps are extremely high > > quality, extremely fast, and fully customizable. > > > > Having done hundreds of web projects with dozens of web frameworks, > > and witnessing so much debate about which framework was better, I'm > > amazed at how much better web development is without any traditional > > framework piece at all. > > > > So, would people tend to agree? I'm also surprised that after how > > heated the server-side web framework wars got, few people have > > mentioned their obsolescence. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "The Java Posse" group. > To post to this group, send email to javapo...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > javaposse+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<javaposse%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to javapo...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to javaposse+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en.