You have to be really careful with these "VB for the web" platforms.
In any non-trivial app, you start hitting all sorts of limitations
that will have you pining for the good ol' days.

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1664503/disadvantages-of-the-force-com-platform


On Nov 4, 8:09 pm, Steven Herod <steven.he...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I started at 11.35am and finished at 11.55am
>
> http://login.salesforce.com/
>
> Username: javapo...@gmail.com
> Password: <contact me>
>
> You can run your daily report herehttps://ap1.salesforce.com/00O90000001as5W
>
> Anybody else can see a few screenshots here:
>
> http://picasaweb.google.com/steven.herod/DropBox#
>
> A few more minutes, and I can schedule the report to run daily and
> email you the result or integrate it with your orgs single sign on
> solution
>
> This is not 'Scaffolding' - if I need to I can fall back to code in
> Eclipse or browser based editor, but mostly its a point and click
> exercise.   And this is just the tip of functionality iceberg.
>
> My point with this is that we talk about a lot of hard core topics on
> the Posse list and sometimes I think we're in two camps.
>
> There are the those that debate the esoteric finer points of code and
> language features which (may) make the underlying implementation of a
> tool like force.com better - and then there are the other group (such
> as me) working on the business problems that pay the mortgage and keep
> the boss happy.
>
> If you are looking at the best business outcome, worry less about
> Scala vs Java, closures vs anonymous inner classes, and think at the
> macro level.
>
> On Nov 5, 10:14 am, dkhaywood <dkhayw...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > On Nov 4, 6:08 pm, Rakesh <rakesh.mailgro...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > need is at least 3 tables
> > > (employee, job description and shift data)
>
> > > I would like to know how some you people would tackle it with the
> > > technologies discussed.
>
> > Since you ask... I'm project lead on Apache Isis, just entered the
> > Apache incubator, which is an implementation of the naked objects
> > pattern (sorry, no website yet).  So, I'd use that.  And if you were
> > a .NET shop, then I'd be using Naked Objects MVC (google for some
> > screencasts).
>
> > I nearly replied to Steven Herrod's earlier post in this thread that
> > web frameworks need to raise the abstraction level... how about a
> > framework where all you write is the domain classes.  That, at least,
> > is the naked objects proposition.
>
> > Dan

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