On Dec 11, 2010, at 2:24 PM, Stuart McCulloch wrote: > On 11 December 2010 21:32, Miroslav Pokorny <miroslav.poko...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > On 12/12/2010, at 1:44 AM, Eric Newcomer <enewco...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> The Executive Committee of the JCP, to which Credit Suisse was elected by a >> strong supporting vote from Java vendors, does not create libraries. Nor >> does the JCP in general. The purpose of the organization is to sponsor the >> development and standardization of specifications, the goal of which is >> basically to ensure Java implementations are consistent. >> >> It is not about innovation per se. If Google or another Java vendor develops >> a cool new library, that's fine and has no relationship to the JCP because >> the purpose of the JCP is to get agreement among all Java vendors about >> things such as what's in Java 7 or >> > > But credit Suisse is not a jvm or java vendor- their participation seems a > little strange given their field of expertise. On the other hand jar 330 had > some guys from weld, guide, spring etc which all makes sense because those > participants were very close to the problem at hand. > > Being very close to the problem is not always a good thing, you can quickly > lose sight of the bigger picture. So I can totally understand Credit Suisse > being on the JCP EC as a large Java consumer to provide some balance. > > Otherwise we could end up with a VM + language which was easy to implement > and write frameworks with, but a pain to use for everyday projects!
Can you say JSR 19 (EJB 2.0)? It is interesting to look at the expert group for this. I'd been doing RPC/Corba type stuff for years and I almost cried when I saw that spec. It was OK for the vendors to tell them how to build the internals for interoperability, but it was a horrible spec to give to end users. I wonder if there had been less "experts" involved with this if we wouldn't have gotten a better result. Ralph -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to javapo...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to javaposse+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en.
