On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 09:20:35 +0100, Mark Derricutt <[email protected]> wrote:

On 14 Feb 2014, at 10:13, Jan Goyvaerts wrote:

I think the mentioned downsides summarize it quite well: It is already
obsolete - before even being released.

Maybe, but I'm wondering if a lot of the recent FUD over Scala's internals will scare off enough people who were only at the "considering scala" stage to stick with JDK8 ( altho, I think that more gives fuel to Ceylon or Kotlin ( or maybe even Xtend ).

Ceylon's use of its own module system may affect its adoption, unless you're writing complete standalone apps ( afaik - I need to look more at how the modules interact with regular java ).

Perhaps we should discuss an update to the current popularity of languages. For what I see, Java might be on its regular decline path, but none of the alternate languages mentioned in this thread have exited from the marsh of exotic stuff where they were in the past. So, perhaps, the real world problems in software development are quite far from the language.

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