Hi Victoria & Doug; Settings in Verboscity & Customize Punctuations are read by JAWS opposite ways. In Verboscity settings, if the punctuation is set to " most ", JAWS is told to " RECOGNIZE " most punctuation. In Customize Punctuation, JAWS is told the direct opposite, JAWS is told to ignore the individual punctuation marks depending on your settings choice.
For example; With punctuation set at " most " in Verboscity/JAWS Options, JAWS will read " most " but, not all question marks, periods, commas, and so on. This setting covers all punctuation marks. Now, in Customize Punctuation in the configuration manager; If you have the period, question mark, comma, & exclamationmark set to " all ", Jaws is told here to ignore all of these punctuation marks. If these same punctuation marks settings were set at " some ", JAWS would " ignore " only some of them and therefore since JAWS is told to ignore only " some " Jaws would read some of them but, not all of them. If I have misstated something in my explanation, Please Brian or David jump in and set me straight! I surely don't want to mislead anyone on this issue. Hope this helps. Take care. Mike, It's tax time! Remember folks, if you add, IRS to the word, the, you get "T H E I R S ". That spells THEIRS! ----- Original Message ----- From: David To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2010 5:49 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] keyboard manager question Hello Douglas; when you get into the keyboard, setting, and you use the s&y keys, to focus on symbols, then what do you hear jaws say? if you hear, symbols no label mute, this tells me that mute is on, if your hearing that, then? tab, press spacebar, you should hear, symbols no label speak. by the way, is the period the only key your not hearing? when you press the symbol key? ----- Original Message ----- From: "douglas dunlap" <frd...@blomand.net> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2010 8:33 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] keyboard manager question Brian And punctuation verbosity are both set to same and announcement still Does not work. Could I have deleted this function somehow? I am confused. Any other suggestions Doug -----Original Message----- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Brian Lee Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 11:13 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] keyboard manager question Hello Doug, If your punctuation level in verbosity is set to "most" then the level for announcing the period should be set to "most", "some" or "none" in the "customize punctuation" dialog box. 1. Press JAWS key with V to bring up the verbosity dialog box. 2. Press the letter "p" until you find the punctuation choice. 3. It is likely set to the most choice and if so just escape out-of-the dialog box. 4. Use JAWS key with F2 to bring up the list of JAWS managers. 5. Press the letter "C" until you find the choice for the configuration manager and press enter key. 6. Press CTRL+shift+D to load the default configuration manager. 7. Use Alt+S to go into the settings menu. 8. Use down arrow key until you find the choice for customizing punctuation and press enter key. 9. Press a period key to move focus to that punctuation mark. If it is set to the "all" choice then you won't hear it announced when punctuation in verbosity is set to the "most" choice. Press spacebar until something other than the "all" level is chosen. The level for the punctuation in the custom punctuation settings should be the same or lower than what is chosen in the verbosity. If it is set to "all" and the verbosity level for punctuation is "most" then you won't hear it spoken. 10. Use tab key to the OK button and press enter key or spacebar. 11. Use CTRL+S to save changes and Alt+f4 to close the configuration manager. Take care. Brian Lee brianl...@charter.net -----Original Message----- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of douglas dunlap Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 4:48 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] keyboard manager question David I tried those instructions three times to no avail. Period still does not announce. Is there anything else I can try. Thanks for your help Doug -----Original Message----- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 8:29 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] keyboard manager question Hello there; have jaws speak your period's again, 1, insert+f2, c=configuration manager press enter. 2, now, press, ctrl+shift+d=default manager. 3, now press alt+s=options, 4, now press the letter K=keyboard options. 5, shift+tab one time you should hear, general, right arrow one time, you should hear key-labels. 6, now tab one time, your in a list, press, the letters, S&Y=symbols, you will hear, no labels speak, tab one time, and, press, the spacebar on, toggle mute button, now, tab and press enter, on, okay button, alt+f4, and say yes to changes. hope this helps. ----- Original Message ----- From: "douglas dunlap" <frd...@blomand.net> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 11:22 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] keyboard manager question Hi Everyone, At some point I went into the keyboard manager and turned the announcement of the period Off. I have no idea how to correct this. The period still works when depressed, but jaws says nothing. Can someone help me turn this back on. Doug For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
