Frustrating and challenging place, Rose. I've been there, but my company threw up it's hands, said they wished they could help me, but as we left WordPerfect, with what they were using then, my screen reader wasn't going to be adequate. Then, of course, for years transcription has paid by production, so you are really in a hard place to be.

GIFT (God is forever true),

Carolyn

----- Original Message ----- From: "Rose Combs" <roseco...@q.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2015 4:47 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS-Users] JAWS & sighted assistance


This is a problem that will probably never be solved as long as sighted
people can and will whip the mouse around and click, click as fast as they
can without regard as to whether we can find the problem.  Heaven forbid
they could take a minute to explain a setup.  I was on the phone with tech
support for work yesterday in fact, he could hear Jaws but if I said it did
not work in Jaws he loaded it and then proceeded to use the mouse, never
taking into account that after he entered the program Jaws stopped talking,
he swore it worked, made it a part of a startup sequence and later in the
day when it would I assume pop up, albeit silently and prevent me from using
Word I ended up going to add/remove programs and take it away, it was a
messenger client, which I have not used before called Spark.  I don't even
have a messenger client on my computer so don't have a clue what might work with Jaws, it is the way they want us to stay intact, and the webmail client
is a royal pain, takes much too long to get to what is needed, too many
wows! And whistles and no real simple layout that would make navigation less cumbersome. My version of Outlook on that computer locked up Tuesday and I
will have to find the file which is buried so deep it may never show up
again. I am not fond of mile long path names either. I want to go back to DOS and Word Perfect when menus worked and I could do almost anything with a computer. That won't happen but I am finding that I hate programs that use a mouse, scroll bar, boxes that won't work no matter what commands are used
and a company who said it all worked when probably 70% of it does not.





Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com
A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the
memory!


-----Original Message-----
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Alan Robbins
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2015 7:25 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS-Users] JAWS & sighted assistance

Well I guess this is a big concern for many on the list. I
know Eric from FS monitors this list and is fully sighted.
Hopefully he will take this to his team as it will require a
sighted developer/tech working on JAWS to come up with a
solution

Best,
Al

-----Original Message-----
From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of
Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2015 9:30 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS-Users] JAWS & sighted
assistance

Right on, David - same here with Jim, who, incidentally, is
a very patient man.

GIFT (God is forever true),

Carolyn

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Moore" <jesusloves1...@gmail.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2015 4:00 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS-Users] JAWS & sighted assistance


Hi all, I have the same problem with my sighted wife,
Traci.  Here is
what happens.  I have her listen to what JAWS is saying,
and then she
will take the mouse and try to let me hear what she is
doing.
However, as soon as she starts moving the mouse pointer,
JAWS causes
the print on the screen to move all around so that she
cannot even use
the mouse.  As soon as I turn JAWS off, she is able to use
the mouse
just fine.  The problem is that I am not able to hear what
she is
doing, so I never learn how to do it for myself.  That is
what people
are trying to say.  It would be nice if the screen didn't
move all
around and other weird activity when a sighted person is
moving the
mouse around.  This is something that really needs brought
up to FS
and I am so glad you are talking about this.  All of you
have a great
one.

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