I suppose it could be worse but right now I don't know how, I just wish I'd decided to take retirement rather than being talked into this venture, the company has no clue how to be helpful, one person tells me something works another that it doesn't and a third tells me it is my responsibility to make it work, as if I can change their programming so all the boxes that are supposed to drop do. What is so annoying is that none of the four cursors can deal with these boxes and what I don't understand is why some work with the alt down arrow but others do not.
Off now to struggle with a web mail client that does have keyboard commands for some of it but that I have not mastered in any sense of the word. Outlook is dead in the water with a data error and was not doing all that well with the multiple tables in a message, before it crashed I had a message I'd been trying to read and was on about the 50th table, multiple long pauses with Jaws, no way to use arrow keys, could not figure out where the problem could be then crash and a message that gives me the path but when I try to type it all in goes nowhere. I have never liked web mail much and that opinion has not changed. However, looks like I have no choice. Part of me wants to just quit but another part wants to fight the issues, the quitting part is starting to be the major part in the past few days. Rose Combs roseco...@q.com A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the memory! -----Original Message----- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold Sent: Friday, April 10, 2015 3:46 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS-Users] JAWS & sighted assistance Frustrating and challenging place, Rose. I've been there, but my company threw up it's hands, said they wished they could help me, but as we left WordPerfect, with what they were using then, my screen reader wasn't going to be adequate. Then, of course, for years transcription has paid by production, so you are really in a hard place to be. GIFT (God is forever true), Carolyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rose Combs" <roseco...@q.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Friday, April 10, 2015 4:47 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS-Users] JAWS & sighted assistance > This is a problem that will probably never be solved as long as sighted > people can and will whip the mouse around and click, click as fast as they > can without regard as to whether we can find the problem. Heaven forbid > they could take a minute to explain a setup. I was on the phone with tech > support for work yesterday in fact, he could hear Jaws but if I said it > did > not work in Jaws he loaded it and then proceeded to use the mouse, never > taking into account that after he entered the program Jaws stopped > talking, > he swore it worked, made it a part of a startup sequence and later in the > day when it would I assume pop up, albeit silently and prevent me from > using > Word I ended up going to add/remove programs and take it away, it was a > messenger client, which I have not used before called Spark. I don't even > have a messenger client on my computer so don't have a clue what might > work > with Jaws, it is the way they want us to stay intact, and the webmail > client > is a royal pain, takes much too long to get to what is needed, too many > wows! And whistles and no real simple layout that would make navigation > less > cumbersome. My version of Outlook on that computer locked up Tuesday and > I > will have to find the file which is buried so deep it may never show up > again. I am not fond of mile long path names either. I want to go back > to > DOS and Word Perfect when menus worked and I could do almost anything with > a > computer. That won't happen but I am finding that I hate programs that > use > a mouse, scroll bar, boxes that won't work no matter what commands are > used > and a company who said it all worked when probably 70% of it does not. > > > > > > Rose Combs > roseco...@q.com > A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the > memory! > > > -----Original Message----- > From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On > Behalf Of Alan Robbins > Sent: Friday, April 10, 2015 7:25 AM > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS-Users] JAWS & sighted assistance > > Well I guess this is a big concern for many on the list. I > know Eric from FS monitors this list and is fully sighted. > Hopefully he will take this to his team as it will require a > sighted developer/tech working on JAWS to come up with a > solution > > Best, > Al > > -----Original Message----- > From: JAWS-Users-List > [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of > Carolyn Arnold > Sent: Friday, April 10, 2015 9:30 AM > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS-Users] JAWS & sighted > assistance > > Right on, David - same here with Jim, who, incidentally, is > a very patient man. > > GIFT (God is forever true), > > Carolyn > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Moore" <jesusloves1...@gmail.com> > To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> > Sent: Friday, April 10, 2015 4:00 AM > Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS-Users] JAWS & sighted assistance > > >> Hi all, I have the same problem with my sighted wife, > Traci. Here is >> what happens. I have her listen to what JAWS is saying, > and then she >> will take the mouse and try to let me hear what she is > doing. >> However, as soon as she starts moving the mouse pointer, > JAWS causes >> the print on the screen to move all around so that she > cannot even use >> the mouse. As soon as I turn JAWS off, she is able to use > the mouse >> just fine. The problem is that I am not able to hear what > she is >> doing, so I never learn how to do it for myself. That is > what people >> are trying to say. It would be nice if the screen didn't > move all >> around and other weird activity when a sighted person is > moving the >> mouse around. This is something that really needs brought > up to FS >> and I am so glad you are talking about this. 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