I suppose it could be worse but right now I don't know how, I just wish
I'd
decided to take retirement rather than being talked into this venture,
the
company has no clue how to be helpful, one person tells me something
works
another that it doesn't and a third tells me it is my responsibility to
make
it work, as if I can change their programming so all the boxes that are
supposed to drop do. What is so annoying is that none of the four
cursors
can deal with these boxes and what I don't understand is why some work
with
the alt down arrow but others do not.
Off now to struggle with a web mail client that does have keyboard
commands
for some of it but that I have not mastered in any sense of the word.
Outlook is dead in the water with a data error and was not doing all that
well with the multiple tables in a message, before it crashed I had a
message I'd been trying to read and was on about the 50th table, multiple
long pauses with Jaws, no way to use arrow keys, could not figure out
where
the problem could be then crash and a message that gives me the path but
when I try to type it all in goes nowhere.
I have never liked web mail much and that opinion has not changed.
However,
looks like I have no choice.
Part of me wants to just quit but another part wants to fight the issues,
the quitting part is starting to be the major part in the past few days.
Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com
A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the
memory!
-----Original Message-----
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2015 3:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS-Users] JAWS & sighted assistance
Frustrating and challenging place, Rose. I've been there, but my company
threw up it's hands, said they wished they could help me, but as we left
WordPerfect, with what they were using then, my screen reader wasn't
going
to be adequate. Then, of course, for years transcription has paid by
production, so you are really in a hard place to be.
GIFT (God is forever true),
Carolyn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rose Combs" <roseco...@q.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2015 4:47 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS-Users] JAWS & sighted assistance
This is a problem that will probably never be solved as long as sighted
people can and will whip the mouse around and click, click as fast as
they
can without regard as to whether we can find the problem. Heaven forbid
they could take a minute to explain a setup. I was on the phone with
tech
support for work yesterday in fact, he could hear Jaws but if I said it
did
not work in Jaws he loaded it and then proceeded to use the mouse, never
taking into account that after he entered the program Jaws stopped
talking,
he swore it worked, made it a part of a startup sequence and later in
the
day when it would I assume pop up, albeit silently and prevent me from
using
Word I ended up going to add/remove programs and take it away, it was a
messenger client, which I have not used before called Spark. I don't
even
have a messenger client on my computer so don't have a clue what might
work
with Jaws, it is the way they want us to stay intact, and the webmail
client
is a royal pain, takes much too long to get to what is needed, too many
wows! And whistles and no real simple layout that would make navigation
less
cumbersome. My version of Outlook on that computer locked up Tuesday
and
I
will have to find the file which is buried so deep it may never show up
again. I am not fond of mile long path names either. I want to go back
to
DOS and Word Perfect when menus worked and I could do almost anything
with
a
computer. That won't happen but I am finding that I hate programs that
use
a mouse, scroll bar, boxes that won't work no matter what commands are
used
and a company who said it all worked when probably 70% of it does not.
Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com
A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the
memory!
-----Original Message-----
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Alan Robbins
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2015 7:25 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS-Users] JAWS & sighted assistance
Well I guess this is a big concern for many on the list. I
know Eric from FS monitors this list and is fully sighted.
Hopefully he will take this to his team as it will require a
sighted developer/tech working on JAWS to come up with a
solution
Best,
Al
-----Original Message-----
From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of
Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2015 9:30 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS-Users] JAWS & sighted
assistance
Right on, David - same here with Jim, who, incidentally, is
a very patient man.
GIFT (God is forever true),
Carolyn
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Moore" <jesusloves1...@gmail.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2015 4:00 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS-Users] JAWS & sighted assistance
Hi all, I have the same problem with my sighted wife,
Traci. Here is
what happens. I have her listen to what JAWS is saying,
and then she
will take the mouse and try to let me hear what she is
doing.
However, as soon as she starts moving the mouse pointer,
JAWS causes
the print on the screen to move all around so that she
cannot even use
the mouse. As soon as I turn JAWS off, she is able to use
the mouse
just fine. The problem is that I am not able to hear what
she is
doing, so I never learn how to do it for myself. That is
what people
are trying to say. It would be nice if the screen didn't
move all
around and other weird activity when a sighted person is
moving the
mouse around. This is something that really needs brought
up to FS
and I am so glad you are talking about this. All of you
have a great
one.
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