At 12:51  30/10/00 -0500, you wrote:
>On 30 Oct 00, at 15:56, Peter Donald wrote:
>
>Hi Peter,
>
>You will find me in full agreement with you if you can point me to 
>the passage in the GPL that says this:
>
>> 
>> Sun decides what a particular platform is.

Well I will do that when you point out to me the section that says what is
considered part of OS. 

Don't be absurd - it does not define it. It does not define any such
notions but do you think that would stop the legal system defining it
during interpretation ? I think not.

>I am also very interested in the court decision (anywhere in the 
>world) that determined this:

There is no court decision at all about the GPL that I am aware of. It has
never been contested by the courts at all so any such request is near
ludicrous. Does the fact that the GPL has never been to court mean that it
is legally open to interpretation ? I would say the exact opposite. If it
was open to interpretation it would have gone to court and not have been
settled out of court.

>> The essential part is how you define os/compiler in a java environment.
>> Lawyers determined that this was anything that got downloaded in same
>> package as java runtime.
>
>For the above, I am also curious about how it relates to a J2EE-like 
>platform, as those APIs are not all "downloaded in the same 
>package as the java runtime" (although some are).

The J2EE platform includes it all - thats what makes it the j2EE. J2EE-like
platforms are j2se with extentions ... thou I think I may have already said
that.

Anyway I can see you will not see what you don't want to see so I guess no
point in discussing it eh ? 

I guess the results will come in once RMS reads his email. If I am wrong
you can laugh your guts out at me. If I am not wrong then hopefully you
will serve as an example for projects in the future who deliberately
violate the GPL.

Good luck, I know where my bet sits,


Cheers,

Pete

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