Peter Donald wrote:
> >On 30 Oct 00, at 14:16, Peter Donald wrote:
> >
> >> At 10:11 30/10/00 -0500, you wrote:
> >> well because if you don't conform to suns definition then it is not the
> >> J2EE platform ;) You are not able to use JMX or EJB 2.0 until sun decides
> >> it is allowable for J2EE. Once they do that of course you are not allowed
> >> to not use it ;)
> >
> >This relates to Sun's licensing, which is not the subject of
> >discussion. This has nothing to do with GPL.
>
> Right - except that it defines that platform you are using (and thus which
> bits are covered by clause 3 of GPL). If you don't conform to suns
> definition then you are not running on the platform and thus clause 3 is
> not activated and you are GPL incompatable.
>
> >> right. But the only J2EE platform is the one sun defines. No other platform
> >> (even if it includes all same extentions) is a J2EE platform. Legal mumbo
> >> jumbo that sun instituted to get some cash ;)
> >>
> >> So even if you are providing a platform that has same extentions (even same
> >> code) as J2EE it is not J2EE platform without a magic wand being waved by
> >> sun ;(
Sorry. I think there is a misunderstanding here. The problem
with calling a certain Java platform J2EE is a _trademark_
problem, not a _copyright_ problem.
This is similar to the EJB letter combination that Sun likes to
call a trademark (I think the official trademark is "Enterprise
Java Beans"). This project used to be called EJBoss, but since
Sun didn't like it and we do not like to step on anybodys toes,
so we changed name to jBoss.
Now the jBoss project walks like EJB and talks like EJB.
In essence the jBoss project is an implementation of
Enterprise Java Beans. We are just not allowed to call it
EJB or "Enterprise Java Beans" due to Suns trademarks.
In the same way we can make a Java(TM) platform that
talks like J2EE and walks like J2EE. We are just not
allowed to call it J2EE due to Suns trademark.
I do not think that this trademark issue is significant
for copyright issues. But IANAL.
Best Regards,
Ole Husgaard.
