On 30 Oct 00, at 14:55, Peter Donald wrote:

> 
> right - but unless you conform to j2EE exactly you are not conforming to
> that  platform. You are actually conforming to j2se with a bunch of
> extentions. Think of j2ee as a blessed version of j2se + some extentions -
> without the blessing there is no platform.

Hi Peter,

This is the statement I don't understand: "without the blessing 
there is no platform." Is there a regulated list of blessers, e.g. on 
the web pages at www.gnu.org? Why does Sun get to decide what 
is a "platform" under a license written by GNU for code copyrighted 
by jBoss authors?

Mind you, I'm not saying your toaster can be a platform. I'm saying 
that a bunch of software with the same structure, the same 
function, the same interfaces, the same methods, the same 
everything but name and version matching is, as far as a legal 
interpretation would be concerned, the SAME THING. If one is a 
platform the other is a platform. Come on--this part is just common 
sense.

If I wrote an operating environment tomorrow, where would I apply 
to get it deemed a platform? Sun? GNU? I've got this great idea for 
a name for my new operating environment -- "Downloaded Code 
from Microsoft" -- but I'm not going to move forward until I'm sure I 
can run GNU utilities on it.

Seriously, something gets to be a platform because it IS a 
platform, not because it has been "blessed." And if the J2EE APIs 
are a platform with the blessing, they are a platform without the 
blessing. Unless there is language about blessing in the license, 
which of course there isn't.

-Dan



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