At 10:52 30/10/00 -0500, you wrote:
>Hi Peter,
>
>I hope you will indulge one last response from me on the "platform"
>issue (see comments below).
I am no expert so you shouldn't take anything I say as bible ;)
Best to get either other peeps who are familiar with legalese to go through
it ;)
>On 30 Oct 00, at 14:16, Peter Donald wrote:
>
>> At 10:11 30/10/00 -0500, you wrote:
>> well because if you don't conform to suns definition then it is not the
>> J2EE platform ;) You are not able to use JMX or EJB 2.0 until sun decides
>> it is allowable for J2EE. Once they do that of course you are not allowed
>> to not use it ;)
>
>This relates to Sun's licensing, which is not the subject of
>discussion. This has nothing to do with GPL.
Right - except that it defines that platform you are using (and thus which
bits are covered by clause 3 of GPL). If you don't conform to suns
definition then you are not running on the platform and thus clause 3 is
not activated and you are GPL incompatable.
>> right. But the only J2EE platform is the one sun defines. No other platform
>> (even if it includes all same extentions) is a J2EE platform. Legal mumbo
>> jumbo that sun instituted to get some cash ;)
>>
>> So even if you are providing a platform that has same extentions (even same
>> code) as J2EE it is not J2EE platform without a magic wand being waved by
>> sun ;(
>>
>
>Fine, but whatever name you want to give our use of the J2EE APIs
>(e.g. "The jBoss 'non-J2EE' Application Server"),
here is the problem - as you are not j2ee compatable you are not running on
j2ee and thus it is GPL incompatable ;)
>you should still be
>willing to stipulate that they are a platform when interpreting the
>GPL. Our use corresponds both structurally and functionally to an
>official J2EE application server implementation, and you seem to
>be willing to call that a "platform."
right - but unless you conform to j2EE exactly you are not conforming to
that platform. You are actually conforming to j2se with a bunch of
extentions. Think of j2ee as a blessed version of j2se + some extentions -
without the blessing there is no platform.
>What criteria are you applying if not structural and functional? This
>is what I was getting at when I said that Sun's name doesn't appear
>anywhere in the GPL license. There is no language in the GPL
>about a magic wand, either. :-)
;)
not sure what you mean here - can you rephrase ?
Cheers,
Pete
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