What?  This is insane... we do not need to complicate the default 
configuration as an example... 

Really... how do you come to these conclusions?  Do you flip a coin, heads it 
stays, tails it goes?  This is complexity... Mr. KISS is going for the 
complex solution... and why?

--jason


On Monday 03 June 2002 03:16 pm, marc fleury wrote:
> that is fine as it will show the usage of unpacked directories to deploy
> and it is a good option as well
>
> marcf
>
> |-----Original Message-----
> |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> |[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jules
> |Gosnell
> |Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 1:58 PM
> |To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> |Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Jan Bartel; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> |Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] Where should the Jasper jar live ?
> |
> |
> |OK,
> |
> |It looks like I have been bludgeoned into seperating Jetty config and
> | impl.
> |
> |Just for the record, Jason, I still don't think you have taken in my
> |suggestion.
> |
> |You seem to think that I am belligerently hanging onto the idea of
> |delivering Jetty in a single file, which needs unpacking, editing and
> |repacking in order to change the port number.
> |
> |If this is not the case - apologies
> |
> |If it is - WAKE UP (I'm allowed to raise my voice here, because I am
> |following precedent).
> |
> |I have suggested delivering the jetty-plugin UNPACKED numerous times (as
> |you will now find it if you build HEAD).
> |
> |There is NO unpack/repack needed to edit the configuration. You just
> |edit deploy/jetty-plugin.sar/META-INF/jboss-service.xml.
> |
> |If I see one more reference to having to pack/repack the sar, I
> |will go mad.
> |
> |The only difference between what you suggest and I suggest is the
> |location of the Jetty files.
> |
> |You want to split them up (into 2 different dirs) across the JBoss
> | distrib.
> |
> |I want to keep them together (in 1 dir), so that it is clearer exactly
> |which parts of JBoss constitute Jetty, in order that anyone can replace
> |that module trivially.
> |
> |I can't make it much clearer than that.
> |
> |I don't think that anyone has made a decent case for not having the
> |Jetty impl present in the deploy directory. The plugin (impl and cfg) IS
> |a deployable.
> |
> |However in the interests of conformity and world peace, I shall fall on
> |my sword and repackage Jetty according to a greater wisdom.
> |
> |Ouch  :-)
> |
> |
> |Jules
> |
> |
> |P.S.
> |
> |Did anyone actually have anything constructive to say about where Jasper
> |should go ?
> |
> |Jason Dillon wrote:
> |> dislcaimer, a few beers in me after the laker game...
> |>
> |>>The natural progression of all this separation of config and
> |>>implementation is that we will begin encouraging people to take all the
> |>>resources out of their ears and deploy them in lib/, then just drop the
> |>>dds into deploy/.
> |>
> |> Who gives a fuck?  My point from the begining was that you are
> |
> |forcing users to
> |
> |> unpack the fucking sar to change the config... which they will want
> |> todo.
> |>
> |>>Ok, so they can edit their descriptors - but it's not J2EE, is it ?
> |>
> |> Again who cares... j2ee blah.
> |>
> |>>Likewise, the sar is a nice extension of the J2EE packaging metaphor.
> |>
> |> Sar is nice when you need to group jars... or if you want to
> |
> |lock config.  I am
> |
> |> not saying that sar is bad... only that our usage of it with jetty is.
> |>
> |> WE EXPECT PEOPLE TO CHANGE THE JETTY CONFIG... in fact all of
> |
> |the times I have
> |
> |> used JBoss3 in production (both at work and for the website) I
> |
> |have had to
> |
> |> change the config.
> |>
> |>>It may not be perfect, but this is the platform that we are
> |>>implementing, and I think consistency is important.
> |>>
> |>>Comments ?
> |>
> |> Dude... what is the problem with a .sar/.jar + .xml?  2 files...
> |
> |big deal...
> |
> |> tell me what the problem is and we can work a solution.  I have
> |
> |already told you
> |
> |> over and over and now over agaion of the problem of shipping the
> |
> |jetty config
> |
> |> inside of a sar.
> |>
> |> I am sorry if I seem harsh, but I think that the answere is
> |
> |obvious... but you
> |
> |> are still balking on it... why?
> |>
> |> --jason
> |>
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