First, I'd like to apologize to anyone I may have offended or irritated in 
recent days. I am not a "whiner" by nature and realize that this is a 
***technical*** list. Nor do I intend to organize a "build system revolution" 
among JBoss contributors, or pollute this list with my personal issues, or 
disturb the JBoss universe in a major way. 

I also don't expect to be spoon fed - I have worked on large systems before 
and am fairly good at locating the ***source*** of a bug and ***fixing it*** 
(I prefer to leave ***finding*** the bug itself to the testers however.)

Now that I have gotten past the build stage, I would lke to begin to be 
productive by fixing some bugs, but I have no idea what tools (preferably 
free tools for Linux (Red Hat 8.0))  work for JBoss development and 
debugging. If there are no useful tools and current contributors are using 
jdb in a console, or, at the other extreme, avoiding unix altogether and 
running a shrink-wrapped IDE under  Windows XP over a Samba connection (for 
unix compatibility verification and testing) I would like to know that so I 
don't waste time trying to implement a utopian solution. On the other hand, 
if there exist useful applications for any of the following  purposes that 
developers are actually using on this project, or a related purpose I have 
neglected to consider, I would like to know that too -- especially if there 
is a particularly useful combination of tools that is widely adhered to by 
members of the JBoss community:

IDEs

Advanced Source code analysis, visualization, code databases

Primitive Source code tagging (e.g., like ctags but for Java)

Build Management tools / techniques (I came up with a simple algorithm for 
cycling updates through my local cvs - i.e. synchronizing local and remote 
cvs - but suspect now that even that may be utopian or just unnecessary).

Tools targeted at multithreaded server applications - in particular tools that 
are good at dealing with threads.

Tools designed especially for testing parallel distributed apps.

Anything else I've left out. 

I am eager to make a contribution and welcome any advice you may have
to expedite this process. 

Secondly I need to know ***which builds are of highest priority. *** I have 
seen some very ancient bug reports on source forge. It is not obvious to me  
just by looking at a bug what is real and what isn't. Feel free to request a 
particular fix - I can't promise I'll pick that one though. 

Also, please do not just tell me to go read the documentation - I have looked 
at JMX and read the 3.0 book already. I have also perused this site fairly 
thoroughly I think. I'd be surprised to discover that I have overlooked some 
obvious source unless it has been added in the past week.

At the same time, I must confess (as if it is not obvious enough already) that 
I am fairly new to open source - my professional experience lies primarily 
with offline mainframes and PCs in a development environment managed by 
somebody else.

Feel free to contact me personally at the e-mail accompanying this posting.

TIA,

Ben Tompkins




On Friday 01 November 2002 09:36 pm, Ben Tompkins wrote:
> Ok - great - but the physics bit (the first, shorter faq that goes on about
> "cantorian fractal spacetime" is mostly plagiarized from a real paper I
> found on the net. Do you want we me to cut it, seek permission, or what. I
> realize that I have created a silly issue - but you never know...
>
> On Friday 01 November 2002 05:05 pm, Jason Dillon wrote:
> > This is funny, funny shit.  Submit a real patch (ala sf.net w/attached
> > file) and I will commit this.
> >
> > --jason
> >
> >
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