+1 for me... but use vim instead of emacs ;) -dain
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In short, whatever works for you. Personally, I don't use IDEs. Hate them. Everytime I start to use them, I just go back to Emacs, find, and grep. I use printlns to debug, or in more complex situations, write some monitor object. But that works best for me. The best advice is to just start doing things. We are starting to put structure around those who contribute. Contribute and you will get attention.-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:jboss-development-admin@;lists.sourceforge.net]On Behalf Of Ben Tompkins Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2002 1:17 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [JBoss-dev] taming the beast First, I'd like to apologize to anyone I may have offended or irritated in recent days. I am not a "whiner" by nature and realize that this is a ***technical*** list. Nor do I intend to organize a "build system revolution" among JBoss contributors, or pollute this list with my personal issues, or disturb the JBoss universe in a major way. I also don't expect to be spoon fed - I have worked on large systems before and am fairly good at locating the ***source*** of a bug and ***fixing it*** (I prefer to leave ***finding*** the bug itself to the testers however.) Now that I have gotten past the build stage, I would lke to begin to be productive by fixing some bugs, but I have no idea what tools (preferably free tools for Linux (Red Hat 8.0)) work for JBoss development and debugging. If there are no useful tools and current contributors are using jdb in a console, or, at the other extreme, avoiding unix altogether and running a shrink-wrapped IDE under Windows XP over a Samba connection (for unix compatibility verification and testing) I would like to know that so I don't waste time trying to implement a utopian solution. On the other hand, if there exist useful applications for any of the following purposes that developers are actually using on this project, or a related purpose I have neglected to consider, I would like to know that too -- especially if there is a particularly useful combination of tools that is widely adhered to by members of the JBoss community: IDEs Advanced Source code analysis, visualization, code databases Primitive Source code tagging (e.g., like ctags but for Java) Build Management tools / techniques (I came up with a simple algorithm for cycling updates through my local cvs - i.e. synchronizing local and remote cvs - but suspect now that even that may be utopian or just unnecessary). Tools targeted at multithreaded server applications - in particular tools that are good at dealing with threads. Tools designed especially for testing parallel distributed apps. Anything else I've left out. I am eager to make a contribution and welcome any advice you may have to expedite this process. Secondly I need to know ***which builds are of highest priority. *** I have seen some very ancient bug reports on source forge. It is not obvious to me just by looking at a bug what is real and what isn't. Feel free to request a particular fix - I can't promise I'll pick that one though. Also, please do not just tell me to go read the documentation - I have looked at JMX and read the 3.0 book already. I have also perused this site fairly thoroughly I think. I'd be surprised to discover that I have overlooked some obvious source unless it has been added in the past week. At the same time, I must confess (as if it is not obvious enough already) that I am fairly new to open source - my professional experience lies primarily with offline mainframes and PCs in a development environment managed by somebody else. Feel free to contact me personally at the e-mail accompanying this posting. TIA, Ben Tompkins On Friday 01 November 2002 09:36 pm, Ben Tompkins wrote:Ok - great - but the physics bit (the first, shorter faq thatgoes on about"cantorian fractal spacetime" is mostly plagiarized from a real paper I found on the net. Do you want we me to cut it, seek permission,or what. Irealize that I have created a silly issue - but you never know... On Friday 01 November 2002 05:05 pm, Jason Dillon wrote:This is funny, funny shit. Submit a real patch (ala sf.net w/attached file) and I will commit this. --jason ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net email is sponsored by: See the NEW Palm Tungsten T handheld. 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