David,

> Hard to know.  We do have the minimal jboss configuration, which is a good
> starting place: as I recall basically all it can do is deploy .sars.
AFAIK

I'm thinking of a minimal that is perhaps smaller than that.  I think that
the MBean API + proxies should be sufficient for many clients.

> It's a lot easier for me to think about the container starting first, and
I
> think it will provide less surprising performance, but I'm not sure we can

Isn't Dain's method just lazy instantiation (by definition harder to measure
performance-wise)?  I imagine a client proxy factory that 1) checks for an
mbean server, creates it if necessary, and then 2) checks if required
client-side MBeans are loaded and then loads them if necessary, before
returning the proxy.

Either way, this all sounds good.  Too bad I don't have a real use for it
yet ;)

 - Matt



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