On Tue, Dec 8, 2015, at 01:04 PM, Kevin Smith wrote: > On 8 Dec 2015, at 21:01, Dave Cridland <[email protected]> wrote: > > On 8 December 2015 at 20:53, Peter Saint-Andre <[email protected]> wrote: > > On 12/8/15 1:07 PM, Dave Cridland wrote: > > > > Certainly I do have the feeling that as an > > end user, obtaining an XMPP account is now very hard, with the effective > > closure of end-user services from jabber.org <http://jabber.org> (the > > obvious go-to public server) and the dropping of XMPP by Google Talk - > > > > I'm not sure I'd say "very hard" - there are still plenty of servers listed > > at xmpp.net. Could it be easier? Probably. It might be good to have a page > > about that at the new xmpp.org website. > > > > By comparison to ${ARBITRARY_IM_SERVICE}, yes, I think it is very hard. Our > > on-boarding process is nothing like as easy as the somewhat commonplace > > "Download app, run app, do some registration dance" - instead it's > > "Download app, go to some website, go to some other website and try to > > figure out how to create an account, configure app." > > > > It was better - for the user - when XEP-0077 was commonplace, since at > > least a client should ship with a list of servers. Of course, that level of > > simplicity brought its own problems, but I think we could make that process > > a lot smoother without compromising security entirely. > > I think there’s a fair argument for simply having an advertised HTTPS > endpoint for servers that clients could then present to the user. It’s > not as satisfying to do it out of band, but it’s also very often what > these easy-to-register-with apps do, and it’s somewhat richer than 77.
To me, the big issue with registration is making it easy for a user to determine which server is right for them. It's a decision most of us wouldn't take lightly. The user needs to realize it's more than just a JID domain name selection, but a relationship that they are entering into with the service provider. I like the idea of tossing the user to a website because it helps start building that relationship. *crawls back into cave* _______________________________________________ JDev mailing list Info: http://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/jdev Unsubscribe: [email protected] _______________________________________________
