Hello Tim,

I just want to say something : I think you have started the wrong way with 
all this learning. Let me explain : when I started studying computer 
programming, i didn't touch a computer for 2 or 3 lessons, all i needed was a 
sheet of paper because i had to learn how to program first, not a language( 
like java ).
So, based on my experience I think you should first learn what are the basic 
building blocks of a program ( if/else, for loops, while, etc ) , how to use 
them to acomplish a task, then start to learn a language.
This way, you could learn a programming language in a few months, because all 
u will need will be : what is the sintax for loop and for while, etc.
Hope it helps and good luck.
Bye,
Edward.


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---------- Original Message -----------
From: "Tim Nicholson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "JDJList" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 00:22:47 +1000
Subject: [jdjlist] in response to your email

> I will say it again :-
> 
> You are not helping me with anything that is going to be graded so I 
> should correct you on that. These problems are not being graded so 
> you don't have to worry about me "riding on your successes " or 
> however you put it.
> 
> I can assure you that I am *genuine* and am not asking out of *sheer
> laziness* as you put it. I sincerely do not know how to do these 
> problems so perhaps I should correct this misconception.
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Alan Williamson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "JDJList" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 8:53 PM
> Subject: [jdjlist] RE: what is it like to be a programmer "in the 
> real world" ?
> 
> > ||| There it starts again. If people can answer straight on
> > ||| this list it would be really great. Why such convoluted answers?
> > |||
> > ||| And am sure Alan this is of no interest to anyone asking
> > ||| questions be it on any
> > ||| topic. Its just going to make them think twice before
> > ||| asking a question down the line.
> >
> > I don't understand the problem here.  The experienced list-members (of
> this
> > list and others) can always spot when someone wants their coursework done
> > for them.   This is why there has been resistant to answer the question
> > directly.
> >
> > Being the first email address in the magazine, does any one appreciate the
> > volume of emails i get from students asking for help with their
> coursework?
> > Around Christmas and Easter time, the volume goes up i guess with the end
> of
> > their semester.  So what am i suppose to do?
> >
> > The geniue ones i help of course i do; but the vast majority is sent out
> of
> > sheer laziness which to be honest, i really do hope they fail, as the
> > computer industry doesn't need anymore cowboys that blag their way through
> > than we are already have.
> >
> > As for what its like to be developer in the real world ... great question.
> > And one that i really look forward to the answers from some.   I will wade
> > in later when i have had some time to think about it.
> >
> > But let me say this, and i am sure i speak for the likes of Jason and Joe;
> > this is not free consultancy.  YES we will help, but we will not do it for
> > you.
> >
> > So if it does make people think twice before asking, then i say thats a
> > great thing.  It cuts down on the noise of the list, and means that
> anything
> > coming through, has already met the first two criteria of Jason's
> tip-list;
> > (1) Read the API, (2) Google Search.   They you may find that people
> > answering your question will go up.
> >
> > We love to help people that want to learn and help.  We don't want to help
> > blaggers and people that will ride on our success.
> >
> > There has been some great threads of the past couple of weeks, and i want
> to
> > thank you all for contributing.
> >
> > alan
> >
> >
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