>From a strictly programming perspective, not too long.  Maybe a couple of
weeks.  However, I came from a C++ background so that made my transition
easier.  My problem was I had been used to using the documentation provided
in MS's Dev Studio which has more information than anyone could ever use.  I
was pretty frustrated for a while not because I didn't know the syntax of
the language but because I couldn't find a resource like I was used to using
and I didn't know all the classes available.

Now I just use the javadocs which provides me with all I need to know.  I
still have to hunt around some for a specific class sometimes, but that's
normal.

-----Original Message-----
From: Joseph Ottinger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 8:52 AM
To: jdjlist
Subject: [jdjlist] Re: where is the manual ????


Just as a question: How long did it take you (for various values of "you")
to gain core competency in Java, where you felt like you could work it
out? At what point would you respectfully suggest that someone may not
have the aptitude for a given language?

I just wonder because some people seem to have a much harder time getting
a basic grasp of things than others. I don't think they're necessarily
stupid or anything, but... I dunno, I just wonder how long it took people
to learn Java's rudiments.

Since I'm asking, I'll tell: It took me roughly a week before I was
writing things I considered to be vaguely competent. What I did first was
pretty immature - I'd do a lot better now - but hey.

On Tue, 25 Feb 2003, Ronald Newton wrote:

> The API "manual" you download is standard JavaDoc, so it should be easy to
> use or in any case, something you learn to use.
>
> Sound to me as if you need some resources above and beyond the manual.
>
> May I suggest "Learning Java" by Niemeyer and Knudsen.  Covers the basics
> and lots of other topics as well.  (Yep, it has lots of Swing examples and
a
> CD as well."
>
> Grabbing a new language may be similar to assembling toys on Christmas Eve
> (RTFM, but you better have some basic background as well.)
>
> Regards,
>
>
> Ronald Newton
>
>
>
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