I am new to jess and eclipse, yet, I am pretty gung-ho about using both. Eclipse seems to be a very powerful tool and has been very interesting to learn over the last couple of days that I have been looking at it.
Nathan Gilbert Fortune will always leave some doors open. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan Crumley Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: JESS: Jess IDE -> Eclipse plug-in I guess it is time for me to chime in my opinion. I use Eclipse on an everyday basis and have developed plugins for it in the past. I also use jess quite a bit, although lately our jess implementation hasn't had any bugs so I haven't had to touch it. =) The main down side I see to using Eclipse for a Jess IDE is that the download is quite large (something around 60mb). For a casual jess user this could be annoying. However, with that 60mb you get quite a bit of power... You get a great java ide, and presumably a great jess ide (not to mention integrated cvs, ant, junit, ect). The other down side is the memory footprint of eclipse isn't tiny, so if you were to run it just for the jess ide it may be an overkill (actually it is possible that without loading the java plugins the memory footprint would be a lot smaller). But using eclipse to build the jess ide provides a lot of benifits... first, you get a first class ide framework for free (free as in no money, and free as in no development time). Second, you get a great UI that is easy to use and works on multiple platforms... That being said, I think the jess ide should be build on whatever has the best potential for enhancing developer productivity with jess. If that happens to be Eclipse, good. If not, I can't wait to see what is better than eclipse. =) ryan -----Original Message----- From: un ethix [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 10:11 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: JESS: Jess IDE -> Eclipse plug-in My personal thoughts on this are, not knowing what eclipse is (apart from a 'general IDE'), and not wanting to use Jess for large scale development efforts, I am naturally against being constrained to having to learn how to use and download something like Eclipse in order to have a Jess IDE. However, I am, at present, not completely satisfied with the current Jess development toos that I have at my disposal. The Jess console is excellent, but very limited. JessWin is ideal, but very buggy. The 'jess-modes' are all very good, but they are limited as editors and constrain me to learn how to use them when I might not want to. Eclipse does not appear to be easy to download, setup and use - and I do not know what it could do for me (is it similar to something like JessWin, except multi-language?). As I have a slow internet connection - I also cannot download it (easily). All this said - I am happy to hear that a serious development effort is underway to enrich Jess with a proper IDE, though by the sounds of things it will probably be many, many months (of hard toil) before it is released. So if there is something that I can do to speed up this process I would (probably) be glad to. Regards, ___ Un Yahoo! Plus - For a better Internet experience -------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send the words 'unsubscribe jess-users [EMAIL PROTECTED]' in the BODY of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED], NOT to the list (use your own address!) List problems? Notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] -------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send the words 'unsubscribe jess-users [EMAIL PROTECTED]' in the BODY of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED], NOT to the list (use your own address!) List problems? Notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------------------------------------------------------------
