Does that mean that the Turbine MVC model will be replaced by a new Jetspeed MVC 
model? - Sandeep

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From:   Weaver, Scott
Sent:   Monday, July 21, 2003 10:04 AM
To:     'Jetspeed Users List'
Subject:        RE: keelframework for jetspeed2

We are currently keeping Jetspeed 2 as "lean" as possible and trying to minimize 
dependencies were we can.  As of now Jetspeed does not use any frameworks.  The idea 
is to let portlet application developers use whatever frameworks they want to build 
their applications.

However, that does not mean we aren't keeping an open mind.  If there is something out 
there that will really help make Jetspeed 2 that much better, we will definitely 
consider it.  

I will make a point to look at Keel when I have a spare moment. 

Thanks,
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Can Uenal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 8:50 AM
> To: Jetspeed Users List
> Subject: AW: keelframework for jetspeed2
> 
> Hi Gerry,
> 
> sounds a good idea that the Jetspeed and Keel folks should talking about
> "their" platform to each other..
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> -----Ursprungliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Gerry Reno [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Gesendet: Samstag, 19. Juli 2003 22:49
> An: Jetspeed Users List
> Betreff: Re: keelframework for jetspeed2
> 
> 
> Can,
>   I take a slightly different view of all the frameworks under Jakarta.
>  I think it is actually a strength of open source to enable so many
> good albeit differing technologies to compete.  Open source has enabled
> software evolution on steroids.  Difficult for architects to keep up -
> you bet.
>   Although I haven't looked at Keel in depth it seems like a good idea.
>  Surround individual technologies with decorators that allow them to be
> plugged into the Keel framework so that you can add/remove/replace
> contributing best-of-breed technologies without major effort.  Ok, but
> the last time I looked at Keel (about a month ago) it really didn't
> have all the pieces in places yet.  It had a core but a lot of the
> surrounding pieces were not done.  Might be worth some time for
> Jetspeed developers to talk with the Keel team and see exactly where
> they are.
> 
> Gerry Reno
> 
> 
> --- Can Uenal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi Gerry,
> >
> > please keep in mind that one of the top weaknesses of the Jakarta
> > project
> > are the existing different concurrent frameworks like Avalon, Struts,
> > Turbine, etc. It is very complicated and confusing for a lot of
> > architects,
> > developers and last but least potential customers why an opensource
> > platform
> > will offer so many frameworks and the most important question is,
> > when & why
> > should someone use one of these frameworks in which topic.
> >
> > Why not using an approach like Keel which seems definetely not alpha.
> > Jetspeed 2 should come up with more enhancements than some better UI
> > stuff
> > or more portlets.
> >
> >
> > -----Ursprungliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: Gerry Reno [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Gesendet: Samstag, 19. Juli 2003 17:58
> > An: Jetspeed Users List
> > Betreff: Re: keelframework for jetspeed2
> >
> >
> > Ender,
> >   I don't think Keel (an expansion of the Expresso concepts) is near
> > ready for prime time.  It is still very young.
> >   Avalon would definitely be a good backbone for lifecycle
> > management.
> >
> > Gerry Reno
> >
> >
> > --- Ender_Hikmet_KILIGOPLU <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > I think you must see it before makin a choice for jetspeed2
> > > design.May be
> > > not complete solution but usage of avalon must be implemented.
> > >
> > > http://www.keelframework.org/
> > >
> > >
> > > ENder
> > >
> > >
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